• Franzia@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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      1 year ago

      Of course it’s okay we sanction human rights abusers. Europe does it, too. Am I supposed to disagree with another country’s sanctions or something?

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        Human rights abusers when they aren’t our allies. US has been pretty chill with Saudi Arabia and they literally dismembered someone on foreign soil because they vocally opposed the tyrannical regime.

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          Saying there should be harsher treatment of SA doesn’t make the sanctions against China any less justified.

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          Saudi Arabia is allies only with our Republican governments. They have been and are going to keep effectively sanctioning us by raising the price of oil before our next election.

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      This but unironically.

      The court filings also show allegations that “profits from oil sales support the IRGC’s full range of malign activities, including the proliferation of weapons of mass destruction and their means of delivery, support for terrorism and both domestic and international human rights abuses.”

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        Remember Saddam Hussein and his weapons of mass destruction?

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          Yes. Also that has no relevance here.

          Are you suggesting the Iranian government is not a hell state that deserves sanctions?

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            Plenty of hell states deserve sanctions, including the US. Being a hell state isn’t a criterion for sanctions. You’re just parroting US propaganda which pretends human rights are why it applies sanctions when in reality that is the last thing on their mind.

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              So you agree they deserve sanctions and this is a good thing.

              Why are you arguing?

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                I said “Being a hell state isn’t a criterion for sanctions.” Sanctions don’t work the way you think they do. They don’t actually punish the people who make hell states the hell states that they are. If they did, then the hell state that would be among those that deserve it the most would be the USA. Do you agree with this?

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                  No, but whether or not I agree the US should be sanctioned is not relevant here.

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                    1 year ago

                    Cool, because being a “hell state” is not relevant for sanctions.

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              I’m unaware of a pending invasion of Iran, and I think it’s about a year late for the kind of intervention I’d have liked to see.

              The Iranian government has no right to exist, and should absolutely be overthrown, though.

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      “In addition, pursuant to a deferred prosecution agreement (DPA) and a seizure warrant issued by the U.S. District Court for the District of Columbia, Empire Navigation, the operating company of the vessel carrying the contraband cargo, agreed to cooperate and transport the Iranian oil to the United States – an operation which has now concluded.”

      • DOJ Press Release

      Is playing fast and loose with the facts also okay when you do it?