Listen, you just want to annex lake Michigan and take Chicago as a part of the bundle, I won’t argue. Because at this point I’m begging
That’s much better.
I think the red area should get alberta, maybe saskatchewan too. And I would personally like to see the Alaska pan handle transferred to B.C.
Illinois can stay.
What? No!
Okay, maybe everything more than 60 miles outside of Chicago can stay. Deal?
Nope sorry. Janesville has to stay too but we’ll take Madison and Milwaukee.
Fip off fips
Hey take some cities as enclaves too. Blue cities in red states don’t deserve that kind of punishment.
What about the liberals in conservative areas? We all gonna hold off because they’re gonna get eaten by the dogs, too? What about liberal kids of conservative parents?
Needs Colorado on there somewhere too. That place is a blue oasis surrounded by a sea of red bullshit states on all sides.
They elected Hoedirt Boebert… no entry.
You say “they” as if states don’t have different districts. Boebert came from a right-leaning district, but was so toxic she couldn’t get re-elected there. So she had to move to an even more right district in order to win.
Add to that she’s actually a transplant from Florida, and it starts to make sense.
I propose we get CO and they can have WI, MI and PA
Realistically this wouldn’t be possible, at least in the way most people assume. It’s hard for people to just uproot their whole lives and move to another state (though it’s easier these days), a partition like this would mean leaving behind a lot of liberal minded people, who are too poor or too rooted in a place.
On a family zoom call we were comparing house moves. My bro had the record at like 51 times he moved his house. One year he moved to Manhattan, then to Harlem, then to London.
It’s not hard, but it can be complex.
I have a garage filled with large power tools, my family and friends are all here and I own the land I live on. It’s hard and expensive to just uproot all that. For someone living an austere lifestyle it would be easier but if you’ve put down roots it’s much harder.
This is not just a simple house move, this is a whole on nation move, where you may never get to go back. There’s will be massive paperwork, a lot of uncertainty, chaos and pain. From my anecdotal knowledge on what happened in countries like west/east germany, north/south korea, india/pak, I can say that this event will be very stressful for a lot of people.
Especially if you have to move for your safety. You might have to sell your house for cheaper than what it’s worth, you might not be able to buy new land or find good renting opportunities. You might have to sell your business or close down. You might have to find new jobs, new schools, new everything. And some people just don’t want to leave their home, no matter how fucked things are, because there’s a chance they’ll never see it again.
This isn’t to mention, the pain that will come with such a divorce, the shame, and the lost hopes.
It’s definitely hard and complex. I think you are greatly underestimating how traumatic such a move would be for a lot of people (even if it maybe necessary).
Eggs and omelettes.
So would the genocide be the eggs or the omelets?
Can Illinois come with? Chicago is pretty cool and we have some nice state parks!
Feel real bad for Illinois, Virginia, Colorado and New Mexico citizens.
And all the Democrats in the red states of course.
Minnesota is a solid blue state that deserves to join Canada as well
The Michigan/mid-west accent is straight up the stereotypical Canadian accent lol.
Sure, bud.
Why do we need counties at all? Why do we even draw borders to begin with?
Humans haven’t figured out how to live without laws yet. If you have laws, you have a region where those laws apply. Voila, countries.
Administration is hard
Countries are just tribes that got bigger.
Why do tribes exist?
☝️🤓 Tribes are akshuly a logical outcome to the evolutionary pressures of social cohesion seen in species descended from pack hunters.
Imagine.
Donald declares war on Canada.
Straight away all those states secede from the union and declare independence (States rights!)
Canada claims them all as allies.
TACO bell end Trump backs down.
States join Canada.
Donald declares war on Canada.
Please take PA, please!!!
lol it’ll just be Philly surrounded by the Fascist Republic of Pennsyltucky, landlocked West Berlin style
(though I suppose Philly does at least have ocean access via the Delaware)
I don’t wanna be left behind in the failed states. But otherwise I approve of this message.
ain’t no fucking way your carving that out and leaving Minnesota behind, we’ve been basically Canada for hundreds of years
Getting California would make Canada shift in identity.
Getting Minnesota would honestly make us even more Canadian.
please take Alaska. I promise we are not that republican
I can be bribed into supporting that with king crab and salmon.
We are almost out of that…
There, FTFY
FTFY
Fuck that, balkanize both
Just split it up, no country should be bigger than something between Hungary and Germany.
By population or land area?
Except this is also how the “democracy” that is modern day Russia was created. Everything that’s happened in the U.S. since ~2012 that has been driving us to the brink of collapse by furthering the divide between left and right has been eerily similar.
Psychological Inoculation and Astroturfing: Preparing for exploitation of U.S. secession movements
A lot of people don’t know this, bc it’s not exactly clear what they were doing there, but coincidentally the Heritage Foundation also seemed to play a role in the creation of the first free market in the earliest days of post-soviet Russia.
thank you for not giving in to their rhetoric and letting this point die.
i get endless downvotes on all social media anytime i say a civil war is the absolute fucking worst outcome of any of the current trends.
guess people are just out for blood rn. i wouldn’t make it sound so innocent, tho. why are people out for blood? lots of answers, none satisfying enough.
Take an up vote from me. Civil wars nearly always end in tragedy beyond the imaginations of those who start them.