• invalidusernamelol [he/him]@hexbear.net
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      israel-cool idf-cool isntrael

      I feel like it’s okay to add it back, I don’t even know what the exact struggle session was to begin with, but anyone who argues for that position now should be banned.

      • hello_hello [hy/hym]@hexbear.net
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        Using indigenous Hawaiian Israel Kamakawiwoʻole to represent the occupation is one of the grossest fucking things on this site and whoever signed off on that change should fucking apologize.

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        There wasn’t really a struggle session over it, just a “yeah let’s not give away easy ammunition to call us antisemites” in the immediate aftermath of Oct 7th. Nobody really thought it was antisemitism to burn the Israeli flag but that anything involving the star of david is incredibly easy propaganda for zionists to claim antisemitism regardless of the reality.

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          The star of david and the swastika are both religious symbols.

          To enforce this rule means that they should also enforce a rule against burning the nazi flag.

          Otherwise it’s just jewish exceptionalism.

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              I would burn a Kkkristian flag with a cross on it in an instant and I don’t think any black person would look at that happening at a demonstration and assume “kkk”. The KKK cross burning was a very specific ritual involving construction of and burning of a physical cross standing by itself either in a yard or near people as a threat or at the center of their ritual gatherings. Backwards patriachal religions have no right to exist nor their symbols of the mythology and superstition any special right to protection when those symbols are at the front phalanxes of the hordes of hate and genocide.

              This is just bad faith hasbara tier garbage. Like saying I want to knife Christian children because I’d burn or shoot up a Nazi belt with "god with us’ on it.

              Fuck using religions as shields. Religious fascists don’t get it both ways, they don’t get to both use it, be recognized for it, receive protections for it being them and them being it and have the casual/passive support of a majority (last I checked) of the adherents of it in the west yet somehow not owners of it and somehow protected from feeling “unsafe” by incidentally destroying the symbol of their movement which they NOT I, not people against it, put on there (on the flag) as a deliberate shield to be used in just this way. And it’s shameful it works and you lean right into their troll-faced attempts at making anti-semitism hatred of pissrael.

              Don’t want it burned? Make those zionist fuckers take it off their fucking flag. Not our fucking job. Not our choice. Don’t blame us.

      • Z_Poster365 [none/use name]@hexbear.net
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        communist web zone tho, supposedly. one that ostensibly supports various factions that do burn that flag all the time. So we are at best sending mixed messages here, undermining support for groups like Ansarallah and Hezbollah by enacting the same policies as the fascist zionist government for some reason. What type of message does this send to those on this webzone not from the burgerreich?

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          undermining support for groups like Ansarallah and Hezbollah

          Yeah dude those groups and the wider world are totally paying close attention to this niche shitposting site. Get over yourself.

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            there’s arab users here including myself that feel extremely othered by this white pearl clutching. many palestinians came here thinking this was an english speaking pro-resistance site, and here we have this quibbling zionist shit still. We can’t escape it.

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                  I am not condemning people irl actually burning the actual flag in protest. We also have the isntrael emoji. You have had a long standing beef with the mods here I get it. But that seems much more to do with your toxic contrarianism than any actual principled stance. Now you are accusing me of “white pearl clutching” and frankly go fuck yourself I am done with you. There’s a reason you have been banned like 5 times before. IDK why they tolerate your repeated ban evasion.

  • AssortedBiscuits [they/them]@hexbear.net
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    I think the people here in the West are in for a rude awakening when they move pass the Anglosphere and realize that non-Westerners without the legacy of the Holocaust are beginning to treat the star of David as a hate symbol in the same exact way Westerners treat the swastika as a hate symbol. And saying that it’s a religious symbol means nothing since religions aren’t inherently peaceful social institutions. If anything, given the Reddit atheist understanding of religion on Hexbear dot net, isn’t something being a religious symbol a bad thing? There are plenty of Indigenous people who see the Christian cross as a hate symbol, and given how much they have suffered at the hands of Christians since 1492, who can blame them?

    The Reddit atheists on Hexbear dot net want a world without religion, and last time I checked, Judaism is a religion as well. A world without religion is a world where Christians, Muslims, Buddhists, Hindus, and Jews don’t exist because no one practices Christianity, Islam, Buddhism, Hinduism, or Judaism anymore. Treating Jews as a monolithic ethnicity instead of a religion with multiple ethnicities that traditionally practiced that religion (Ashkenazim, Sephardim) on of top of unaffiliated individuals and families converts from varying ethnicities is a Zionist talking point. It’s like saying Armenians, Ethiopians, and Palestinians are one ethnicity because those populations are one of the oldest Christian populations.

    The swastika being a religious symbol for Hinduism, Buddhism, and Jainism didn’t save the swastika, and I don’t think it will save the star of David either.