cross-posted from: https://50501.chat/post/177705
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u/transcendent167At2025-05-02 10:43:07 AM| Source
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We don’t need AI rubbish for this, someone already made this one:
Oops, I guess I was a little too spicy. I agree, we don’t need AI, and using the tools of billionaires instead of real art by human artists is at best misguided and at worst actively harming the people you purportedly want to help.
I don’t blame people for reposting it when they don’t realize it’s AI, it can be hard to tell.
We don’t have an anti-AI art policy in this community, and remember it’s a memes community, not a debating club on the merits or harms of gen-AI.
Fighting the war class? No, I would better derive all my strength into a useless fight against a technology (which was also made and used by workers, artist are not the only workers in this world). Fighting my own comrades if necessary to accomplish the Butlerian Yihad.
That’s how the left space feels nowadays. We better rebrand socialism to antiAIsm because there’s not much else left on the movement these days.
I mean, why does it have to be one thing we are trying to not support? People in leftist spaces are trying to root out AI because of its myriad global problems and the way that the industry is akin to a new type of destructive bomb in the class war. Consolidating more wealth and power into the hands of the same technocrat few, poisoning the earth, destroying the livelihood of artists (and entire companies and divisions of workers across multiple industries because bosses are seeing dollar signs), stealing from the many and giving to the few in terms of creativity, it’s set to benefit the VCs…what is there to like about it?
You’re seeing a lot of talk about it because so many people thoughtlessly bought in when the more moral action would be to abstain from using it and insist on spaces that don’t welcome it. It’s not really that we are shifting energy away from more important things. It’s just that people will always say “hey, can we not use this here?” And you’re acting like we’re letting starving orphans starve so we can fight AI.
Most of those claims could be applied to factories, though, or to most technologies.
I don’t like this trend because it’s a conservative approach IMHO. A little primitivist even.
Think of a chair factory. It took jobs away from artisans. It allowed fewer capitalist to further exploit workers and concentrate wealth. It hurt the environment way more than artisan chair making…
But those factories and their workers are the base of the socialist movement. Giving the control of those means of production to the workers. Not destroying them.
If we are talking about destroying the means of production instead of taking control of them in my opinion we are talking about other thing, not socialism.
I worries me because it tilts the objectives that I think have the socialist movement. And it stirs towards other port that I don’t know if I’m comfortable arriving.
100% agree with you - it’s the very definition of reactionary. And in order to buy into the anti-AI argument you have to accept the argument that IP property rights are legitimate, so it’s essentially a neo-liberal position. Property rights are the foundation of right wing politics. That’s why we have copyleft.
And in order to buy into the anti-AI argument you have to accept the argument that IP property rights are legitimate, so it’s essentially a neo-liberal position.
This is also a good argument for outright banning anti-AI trolling like this instance wide. At best it’s a hypocritical position, at worst it goes against our core values.
There’s nothing immoral about AI, and it doesn’t steal from anything. Ideas can’t be owned, and copyright and intellectual property are capitalist nonsense. If you don’t want to share an idea, don’t bring it into the world. Because once you do, it collectively belongs to the human condition.
there’s one African immigrant that should be blamed.
