Kids were killed but the chat leak was funny and that’s what has been the people talk about instead.
Imagine being the poor family, who is stuck living in Yemen because they cannot afford to relocate, whose kid has died by Trump’s bombing. Then all you see in the news about how they joked with emojis in chat killing your kid. “Oh your kid was killed in that emoji airstrike.” Tell me why the fuck you would grow up anything but radicalized.
Houthis are the only international actor acting in open military opposition to the genocide in Gaza. They are doing their best to enforce a shipping blockade pending a cessation of Israeli war crimes. The US obviously wants the genocide to continue, as well as all shipping trade through the area.
They leveled a building to hit 1 target
They’re brown and poor and our country is deep in the arms trade.
opens a post with question in the title that is lamenting that news don’t give any real answers and focus just on “trump bad” story.
all top comments are just “trump bad” and “all bad government” and has to scroll deep down to find an actual answer to the question posted.
leaves understanding much better why news don’t focus on context and give just emotional side stories.
Because the houthis are raiding merchant ships
Who are the ships supplying? And why are they firing on them? What’s the stated reason for the blockade?
The answers to these questions demonstrate why the Signal story is so important.
Don’t think it matters who is being supplied. Merchant ships are targets of opportunity
It doesn’t matter who is being supplied? If a ship was supplying the Nazis in WW2, wouldn’t that be relevant to its being targeted?
No it doesn’t matter.
Good on them for being one of the very few groups on earth actively opposing the ongoing genocide.
They stopped all raiding when Israel agreed to a cease fire and they only resumed it when Israel resumed their genocide.
History books will likely see the Houthis as a heroic group that fought against genocide.
Bro do you know what the Houthis have been doing for years in Yemen? You do know that there is one of the worst wars in the world going on there, in Yemen?
This is not a heroic group in any way. They are doing the whole “fighting against Israel” thing for their image and because their followers demand it.
for their image and because their followers demand it.
This comment is not intended to place a moral judgement on the Houthis one way or another, but isn’t this the primary justification most organizations do most things? I doesn’t really seem like a bad reason…
I guess you’re right.
I was just pointing out that their reason is not because they are a “heroic group”. Ansar Allah is a violent suppressive group.
The UN report on the group says that “Children as young as 13 have been arrested for “indecent acts” for alleged homosexual orientation or “political cases” when their families do not comply with Houthi ideology or regulations. Minors share cells with adult prisoners, and according to unspecified reports that the Panel has deemed “credible”, boys held in Al-Shahid Al-Ahmar police station in Sana’a are systematically raped.” Source pdf Aside from the Panel of Experts, London-based Arabic newspaper Asharq Al-Awsat alleges that Ansar Allah have revived slavery in Yemen. Source
Uncritically propegating Saudi propaganda (Saudis which actually revived the slave market by the way) to blame the people being genocided.
I hope you are simply misinformed.
I am quoting an UN report. I have no idea whether that UN report is well informed or maybe was influenced by propaganda.
The UN report calling the Saudi backed insurgency the “Yemeni government” gives away a lot.
Someone made a good video on it recently. https://youtu.be/W2I9IaMUsa0
I was almost with you on this one. Just because they’re against the guys you don’t like doesn’t make them heroes.
Framing actual genocide as “guys you don’t like” is so funny to me.
Entirely ignoring the point.
Perhaps shockingly to you, being against genocide doesn’t make you a hero. Jeffrey Dahmer was presumably against the Holocaust. He’s not going down in history as a hero.
Was Dahmer eating people to apply pressure to stop genocide?
Because that’s the equivalent analogy.
The Houthis have been committing war crimes for years before Oct 7th. They’re not some freedom fighter group that popped up in 2023 only doing bad things to serve their greater goal of stopping Israeli genocide.
That’s my entire point, they’re not heroes just because you agree with their stance on Israel. I hope you don’t agree with their stance on torture and child murder. You are against indiscriminate bombings of civilians when Israel does it, surely you’re opposed to it when the Houthis do it.
Two organizations who disagree with each other can both be bad.
Not only is killing armed American/Israeli invaders not a war crime, it’s considered heroic by anyone with a brain. I know, shocking
“Just because they are stopping a genocide does not make them heroes”
Yes it does.
They are not stopping a genocide.
The stopped when food came into Gaza. At this point it is undeniable.
Everybody congratulate the Houthis for singlehandedly stopping Israel’s attacks.
I feel like I’m taking crazy pills. We all agree that they are doing their trading vessel attacks because they are against Israeli war crimes. Sure that is undeniable, but that’s not what is at question. The Houthis do a lot of other stuff, inclusive of their own war crimes. So they’re not good guys, they’re not heroes, they’re not a single issue group that only exists to stop Israel.
They’re also not stopping the genocide.
In this genocide they are the good guys.
America does far more war crimes than the Houthis. Are you out there denouncing Bernie Sanders because he is part of America and thus not a good guy?
They’re bombing the Houthi’s in Yemen because the Houthis have been launching Iranian missiles at ships in the Red Sea since 2023? Including the US navy (don’t touch the boats) and Israel. The houthis are currently holding hostage a number of crews of merchant ships
bombed for being based
The MAGA movement have no care about what the administration does, especially when it comes to non-americans in a country literally none of them coudl identify on a map. But if you show them “look how poorly this bombing was planned and carried out” then maybe they will listen.
Also bombing Yemen is a presidential tradition that every president in the past 25 years has done. Yes, Trump probably bombed them more in his first term than all his predecessors combined, but no matter what kind of president is in office, American’s are very normalized to hearing that the president bombed Yemen. And because they are generally just periodic attacks, it gets hard to keep up the push to get the government to stop because the answer is always “well, we’re done now anyway, national security reasons, bla bla bla.”
So instead Americans vote for candidates who say they’re going to get us out of foreign wars, which Trump knows to do on the campaign trail, and he talks about it more than any other candidate and people keep believing him, even though he’s lied before.
The Houthis, is a Zaydi Shia Islamist political and military organization that emerged from Yemen in the 1990s. It is predominantly made up of Zaydi Shias, with their namesake leadership being drawn largely from the Houthi tribe. The group has been a central player in Yemen’s civil war, drawing widespread international condemnation for its human rights abuses, including targeting civilians and using child soldiers. The Houthis are backed by Iran. The Houthis emerged as an opposition movement to Yemen president Ali Abdullah Saleh, whom they accused of corruption and being backed by Saudi Arabia and the United States.
