• Allonzee@lemmy.world
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    13 days ago

    Sports are games.

    Games are supposed to be inclusive and fun.

    Society taking games deathly serious (and equivocating it with academic merit, aka serious pursuits) is the problem.

    People rioting and murdering if the game didn’t work out for their team is the problem. Putting billion dollar stakes on games is the problem.

    Trans people or any people wanting to play games with their friends should be what society fosters and nurtures as the entire fucking point of society’s existence. Something something… planting trees something something knowing they’ll never sit under…

    Nope? let’s bring on the climate change induced extinction then. If our values are hyper competitive, dog eat dog bullshit from labor to fucking games, we should go extinct.

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      Trans people or any people wanting to play games with their friends should be what society fosters and nurtures as the entire fucking point of society’s existence. Something something… planting trees something something knowing they’ll never sit under…

      Coed teams exist. They’re finding issue with mtf athletes playing against a league of individuals who didn’t go through puberty as a male. That’s clearly an advantage, and to say otherwise is to ignore science altogether.

      Maybe the solution is non-gendered weight classes for sports, or just more coed teams. Idk

      Edit: yall will convince yourselves of anything lol. Really wild the dumb shit some people will say

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        Ah, yes, let’s make laws specifically banning 2-5 children from ever having fun.

        Like… what the fuck is wrong with you that you think a law targeting under 10 people in the entirety of the US is justified and not literally just bullying those kids on a national level to hope they fucking commit suicide? A law to tell 5 kids, specifically, that fuck them and they’re not allowed to have fun is god damn crazy.

        https://www.newsweek.com/how-many-transgender-athletes-play-womens-sports-1796006

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          Having fun is one thing and winning competitions against people you have a biological advantage against is another. It only takes one person to win a championship.

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            So you’re saying that people like Michael Phelps should be excluded from competing in sports due to the famous athelete’s “biological advantages”?

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                    Depends on what the point is.

                    If the point is to give everyone a chance to compete fairly then breaking the sport into tiers based on ability makes sense and gender segregation would be unnecessary.

                    If the point is to make space for women to participate in sports, then excluding certain kinds of women because of some personal characteristic outside of their control would defeat the purpose. Trans women deserve not to have to play with the boys too.