Like:
People should be allowed to exist
Social programs aren’t communism
The system isn’t working for the people
Edit:
I’ve changed my mind on this.
Let the DNC go full MAGA and when they lose, because they will lose, they get the heat and we can eject them forever. At least sit them in a corner.
Progressives, you fight if you want but I don’t believe the elections will be fair so it’s a win win for you.
I’m just saying if moderates are the solution, and we’ve been leaning on moderates since 2016 how is the framework of our government falling apart?
Last election people knew they had a choice between Donald Trump and status quo and eighty million people decided they didn’t give a fuck what happened.
I’d say that is a pretty good reason why the government is falling apart.
Moderates were at the helm my dude. They marched out all their best friends. Dick Cheney. Liz Cheney. Mike Pence.
Biden is poster boy moderate. He even brought us famous legislation like:
Student loan debt being unforgiveable
War on drug shit to save us from the “super criminals”
I’m not saying moderates aren’t an important part of the GOP. Honestly they are sometime easier to be around. I just think they will appear pompous against a trump who is brilliantly an asshole and get creamed.
Biden got one of the most progressive budget bills ever over the finish line. $800 billion dollars toward greening our infrastructure. You can’t blame him for not getting the green new deal passed, the mfer tried, it’s not his fault that 2 dems in the Senate nerfed it. Tried on student loan debt too, multiple times. The president is not a king.
Yes, his stance on Israel sucked, but Jewish people deserve to exist too. You can’t celebrate inclusion and then “to the river to the sea” a whole subset of people. Well I mean, I guess you can if you’re a hypocrite.
I’m not insane enough to argue biden didn’t do some stuff. I just believe and will continue to believe, he lost the real fight, and that was novemeber 2024 and the damage done will be irreparable.
Biden was right, Obama was right. Socially left and economically right was used as a smokescreen.
If you took all of the votes for Harris and gave them to the leading progressive candidate they still would have lost.
They’re a rounding error in democracy and the amount of change they’ve made reflects on that.
This is not how politics works. At all.
The democrats offered nothing and got nothing in return.
Perhaps if they offered something to people, like maybe reforming the healthcare system that will bankrupt you for a bandaid, I wonder if some of those nonvoters would have paid more attention.
Hmm… The world may never know…
I just don’t think that’s the end all be all answer to your argument. It’s not as data driven as you might think. There is much more working under the hood then just shifting votes around.
In our system votes are literally all that matter.
Right, so do a more rigorous analysis.
Want me to tell you how Rachele Fruit could have had a path to the presidency?
No.
If that were my argument I would but as you’ve hopefully read. I think your, “proof” is surface level and am not convinced.
So we agree that voters do not want status quo? Because that’s what moderates were offering.
No they wanted what Trump was offering.