• RubberDuck@lemmy.world
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    1 month ago

    Then the assumption should be the most damning scenario for open AI that this evidence could provide.

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            Are you actually educat3d on this or just saying things? Because I’m asking bc idk

            • Voroxpete@sh.itjust.works
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              So, I had to double check myself on this one, and my original answer wasn’t entirely correct.

              If it is found that the destruction of evidence was intentional then yes, the jury can be instructed to view the missing information in the least favorable light, or a case can simply be outright dismissed or a default judgement entered.

              However even in the case of “accidental” (ie, not provably intentional) deletion the court can still take various measures to redress the balance in some way.

              I am not a lawyer but this guy is - https://joneskell.com/how-spoliation-of-evidence-impacts-litigation/

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              Failing to preserve evidence is sacntionable, even if it isn’t willful destruction. The penalties generally aren’t as stiff, but if the judges accepted “Oopsie, we accidentally destroyed evidence we were required to preserve” as a defense, there would be an incentive to destroy evidence and claim it was an accident.

              The fact that most companies still turn over evidence that’s damning to their own cases is the proof that it’s generally a bad idea to accidentally destroy evidence.

              Look at it another way: If you’re speeding and get pulled over, would a judge let you off if you tell him you were only doing 70 in a 35 because you weren’t paying attention to the road?

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    Important context:

    • Data was recovered
    • Plaintiff does not believe it was purposeful
    • Cost plaintiff a week’s work
    • Plaintiff has already spent 150 hours going through data
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    Journalistic malpractice to repeat their “accidentally” claim without attribution or quotes

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    In Spain, in a major political corruption trial, a party turned in as evidence some drives that had been erased by Dban 7 times. They argued that it was routine to do seven passes.

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        It’s an option, but not the default. It takes forever to run, so someone using it is being very intentional.

        It’s also considered wildly overkill, especially with modern drives and their data density. Even a single pass of zeros, the fastest and default dban option, wipe data at a level that you would need a nation state actor to even try to recover data.