They already said it will be off by default for all Enterprise editions of windows. They’re protecting their corporate buddies but normal users get fucked, as always.
One step. The corps know it. It’s been happening for years. One step, then soon after you just accept that’s how it is. Then another step. And another. And another…
I think you misunderstand the relationship Microsoft has with corporations. If they turn on something like this after the fact while promising to do the opposite previously they will get thoroughly railed in court and then no one will ever buy their products ever again.
The reason that companies use Windows rather than running everything on Linux is the absolutely enormous support base that Windows has. The moment it becomes more problematic to use Windows than to just deal with the support issues of a Linux OS is the moment that everyone will switch to Linux.
Work in the space, I don’t misunderstand. Corps are one thing, what about the rest of civilization? Also some corps might even embrace as a means to spy on their employees work habits or something dystopian like that.
I actually really doubt it’d ever go on by default for enterprise installations. One tiny slipup in GPO and IT departments could end up with the most massive explicit data leak in history, many many companies and governments working with very sensitive data would drop all Microsoft products in a heartbeat. Microsoft knows that is an impossible sell and really not worth the squeeze vs just shoving a larger dildo up the private consumer’s ass.
Ours is. Last I heard, our Client Management team is already looking for different ways to disable it and make triple sure it stays off.
(inb4 “Switch to Linux”: several thousand users, specialised software and a technologically conservative company would already make that a non-starter)
I don’t disagree that it would be tough, but they had to start from nothing when choosing Windows originally. It all had to be learned and built up at some point. It can again, and hopefully on an open platform that won’t fuck them over in the future. (I know, there’s no chance, but there should be.)
Everyone always complains that whatever they want isn’t on Linux. Well, it wasn’t on Windows at some point either. Make a user-base for it on Linux or make it yourself. Someone did it in the past. It can be done again.
Inertia is a hell of a thing to try and overcome. It’s a big deal for most companies to change out an important piece of software, let alone an entire OS and everything that comes with it. It could happen one day, I just don’t expect to see it.
I don’t understand how businesses that use windows for employee laptops are not throwing a fucking tantrum. I would be.
They already said it will be off by default for all Enterprise editions of windows. They’re protecting their corporate buddies but normal users get fucked, as always.
Off by default. For now…
One step. The corps know it. It’s been happening for years. One step, then soon after you just accept that’s how it is. Then another step. And another. And another…
I think you misunderstand the relationship Microsoft has with corporations. If they turn on something like this after the fact while promising to do the opposite previously they will get thoroughly railed in court and then no one will ever buy their products ever again.
The reason that companies use Windows rather than running everything on Linux is the absolutely enormous support base that Windows has. The moment it becomes more problematic to use Windows than to just deal with the support issues of a Linux OS is the moment that everyone will switch to Linux.
Work in the space, I don’t misunderstand. Corps are one thing, what about the rest of civilization? Also some corps might even embrace as a means to spy on their employees work habits or something dystopian like that.
I actually really doubt it’d ever go on by default for enterprise installations. One tiny slipup in GPO and IT departments could end up with the most massive explicit data leak in history, many many companies and governments working with very sensitive data would drop all Microsoft products in a heartbeat. Microsoft knows that is an impossible sell and really not worth the squeeze vs just shoving a larger dildo up the private consumer’s ass.
Not every business uses enterprise. I suspect quite a few use pro.
Just because you’re running pro doesn’t mean you don’t have domain policies.
Yes and no.
Enterprise has just lesser headaches and no need to customize the installation as much as the adware bloated default iso.
I’m just saying that you can turn recall off in GPO. As long as Windows pro machines are bound to the domain.
I checked my work laptop running W11. Recall was installed and enabled. No copilot+. IT had no idea. Disabled it right away.
Ours is. Last I heard, our Client Management team is already looking for different ways to disable it and make triple sure it stays off.
(inb4 “Switch to Linux”: several thousand users, specialised software and a technologically conservative company would already make that a non-starter)
I don’t disagree that it would be tough, but they had to start from nothing when choosing Windows originally. It all had to be learned and built up at some point. It can again, and hopefully on an open platform that won’t fuck them over in the future. (I know, there’s no chance, but there should be.)
Everyone always complains that whatever they want isn’t on Linux. Well, it wasn’t on Windows at some point either. Make a user-base for it on Linux or make it yourself. Someone did it in the past. It can be done again.
Inertia is a hell of a thing to try and overcome. It’s a big deal for most companies to change out an important piece of software, let alone an entire OS and everything that comes with it. It could happen one day, I just don’t expect to see it.