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    A lot of universities with large campus grounds take the approach of observing the natural foot traffic wear patterns on grassy areas, and then build walkways where the most worn down parts are.

    Its… pretty obvious.

    If everyone is taking an alternate, non designed path… your design sucks, modify it to facilitate what people find more effective.

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      It is not design issue but not well behaved people. It is like saying that the trash can isn’t a good design because people are throwing trash on the street. You don’t path like that in countries with people that respect rules.

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        People throwing thrash on the way usually is a sign of not enough trash cans in an area.

        Yes of course there are always a few assholes who just waste, but in general you can go by that rule.

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          People throwing thrash on the way usually is a sign of not enough trash cans in an area.

          No. I regularly see trash on the ground with sometimes as much as 5 trash cans in sight that are less than 20m away.

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            I believe you, however statistics say that overall people tend to use trash cans if available.

            This means your neighbours is special and a lot of assholes are there.

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          It is not an excuse, you can always bring your trash with you. That is what Japanese people do as there no trash bins in Japan (they are really real rare).

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        Who is protected by rules that keep you on the path? Who am I impressing by taking the ten seconds out of my day to stay on the pavement?

        I don’t have much respect for grass. Take the shortcut and relish the rare opportunity to be near nature in the city

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        Where do you see frequent trash cans and people regularly throwing trash out in the street?

        Typically trash in the street means you don’t have enough trash cans, or a bunch of youth or homeless people whom society is failing.

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          I have been in few countries in Europe and I see trash in the street. Japan doesn’t have trash bins (not in the street, train, stations) and you won’t see trash in the street.

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            Yeah but there’s other contributing factors, such as the highly traditional society and a greater sense of honour and conformity

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            You are lying or not paying attention. Got to Tokyo and you’ll have plenty (as per Japanese standard) of trash in the streets specially near Shinjuku and Shibuya

            And yes they mostly take their trash with them as there are no trash bins. But is it a smart design though?

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              I am not lying and if you do some search you will find out that there are rarely trash bins in the whole Japan. And that is the result of the 90s terrorist attacks. I have been there and I rarely seen trash bins and I have been in many different cities. There are may be exceptions in some areas but that is not the norm.

              Why isn’t a smart design? Why spend money for something that is not necessary. Also bringing trash home will ensure that people will recycle them. Trash recycling do exists in Europe but not in street trash bins. Trash bins exists in Europe because otherwise people will just throw their trash in the street like they do for cigarettes butts.