A lot of universities with large campus grounds take the approach of observing the natural foot traffic wear patterns on grassy areas, and then build walkways where the most worn down parts are.
Its… pretty obvious.
If everyone is taking an alternate, non designed path… your design sucks, modify it to facilitate what people find more effective.
They did this in a park by my house. It used to have a long paved path that meandered through some woods. Engineers with the city noticed the shortcut that people were cutting through, and realized that most people didn’t care for the long path. Apparently some anonymous person or several had been dumping gravel along the shortcut for traction and to make it less muddy. So the city paved the shortcut, and removed the long path so that nature would reclaim it.
Democracy in action.
It was kind of sad though to lose the long path because I liked walking through there, especially during the fall, but if it means having less maintenance machines going in there every week to pollute the place (lawnmowers, asphalt patching, etc) then so be it.
It is not design issue but not well behaved people. It is like saying that the trash can isn’t a good design because people are throwing trash on the street. You don’t path like that in countries with people that respect rules.
It is not an excuse, you can always bring your trash with you. That is what Japanese people do as there no trash bins in Japan (they are really real rare).
I have been in few countries in Europe and I see trash in the street. Japan doesn’t have trash bins (not in the street, train, stations) and you won’t see trash in the street.
A lot of universities with large campus grounds take the approach of observing the natural foot traffic wear patterns on grassy areas, and then build walkways where the most worn down parts are.
Its… pretty obvious.
If everyone is taking an alternate, non designed path… your design sucks, modify it to facilitate what people find more effective.
These are apparently called “Desire Paths”
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Desire_path
And there’s a whole community for them! Not sure how to link to it though.
Just give the URL, I’ll do a federated link for you.
https://sh.itjust.works/c/desire_paths Thanks!
!desire_paths@sh.itjust.works
Literally just put it in that way, for future notice - there’s no hidden formatting here.
Same for users — just change the ! to an @.
Example: @pageflight@lemmy.world
At least on the official web app, that doesn’t render as a link. You’ve got to do it as [whatever](u/pageflight@lemmy.world)
whatever
iirc it’s what they did in central park. Don’t create paths and later pave the desire paths that show up
They did this in a park by my house. It used to have a long paved path that meandered through some woods. Engineers with the city noticed the shortcut that people were cutting through, and realized that most people didn’t care for the long path. Apparently some anonymous person or several had been dumping gravel along the shortcut for traction and to make it less muddy. So the city paved the shortcut, and removed the long path so that nature would reclaim it.
Democracy in action.
It was kind of sad though to lose the long path because I liked walking through there, especially during the fall, but if it means having less maintenance machines going in there every week to pollute the place (lawnmowers, asphalt patching, etc) then so be it.
Don’t underestimate youthful rebellion!
It is not design issue but not well behaved people. It is like saying that the trash can isn’t a good design because people are throwing trash on the street. You don’t path like that in countries with people that respect rules.
People throwing thrash on the way usually is a sign of not enough trash cans in an area.
Yes of course there are always a few assholes who just waste, but in general you can go by that rule.
No. I regularly see trash on the ground with sometimes as much as 5 trash cans in sight that are less than 20m away.
Might that trash have blown out of the can or maybe an animal took it out?
I believe you, however statistics say that overall people tend to use trash cans if available.
This means your neighbours is special and a lot of assholes are there.
It is not an excuse, you can always bring your trash with you. That is what Japanese people do as there no trash bins in Japan (they are really real rare).
I do take my trash with me but less functional design is a bad design.
Who is protected by rules that keep you on the path? Who am I impressing by taking the ten seconds out of my day to stay on the pavement?
I don’t have much respect for grass. Take the shortcut and relish the rare opportunity to be near nature in the city
Where do you see frequent trash cans and people regularly throwing trash out in the street?
Typically trash in the street means you don’t have enough trash cans, or a bunch of youth or homeless people whom society is failing.
I have been in few countries in Europe and I see trash in the street. Japan doesn’t have trash bins (not in the street, train, stations) and you won’t see trash in the street.
Yeah but there’s other contributing factors, such as the highly traditional society and a greater sense of honour and conformity
No,