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fossilesque@mander.xyzM to Science Memes@mander.xyzEnglish · 7 months ago

well, at least I wasn't the only one to wonder

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fossilesque@mander.xyzM to Science Memes@mander.xyzEnglish · 7 months ago
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    Toxicologists and medical scientists looking for data on humans suddenly having to learn Japanese (or German) …

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      I can think of 731 reasons why.

      Edit: or I hope they don’t mengele the translations.

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    Alternatively you’re asking physiology questions and the first paper that pops up is written by a 90s phrenologist whose Wikipedia page states they’re a well known white supremacist.

    Got two sentences into the abstract before stating “hol up”.

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      Came across an unironic use of “momgoloid” in a paper from 1992 once

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    Similar to the meme… godamn did they fuck up by not holding geneticists to something close to… SOME standard naming.

    Dated a maternal fetal medicine specialist. She’d come home being like “you ever have to explain to someone they have a mutation in the ‘sonic the hedgehog’ gene of their kid?!” If you’re familiar with what it does in fruit flies (when it was named), it’s fucking horrific in humans. Don’t google it.

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      It does make more sense if you consider that it is part of a line of Hedgehog genes, all of which make Fruit fly embryos look like hedgehogs (spiky) if they’re inactivated.

      They didn’t just go “Let’s name a gene with bad outcomes if mutant in humans after a video game character! Yipee! Hooray!”, at least not for that.

      Though they did name SHH’s inhibitor Robotnikin.

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        Oh I get how it got that way, it’s just unfortunate what that lead to in a clinical setting.

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      it’s fucking horrific in humans. Don’t google it.

      Is that the R34 sonic mutation?

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        It might be? I forget exactly what it is in humans, I just remember the pictures I was shown. Midline disorders are nightmare fuel.

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      Drag has been diagnosed with disorders that are just named after some guy, and it was boring. The kids who get told they have Sonic Hedgehog mutation are lucky. If all of our disorders had fun names, then it wouldn’t be taboo.

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        A SHH mutation is generally not considered compatible with life. So it’s less the kids who’d find out, and more the parents.

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          “Sonic Hedgehog killed my child” is a way better story than measles or leukemia. In terms of parents of dead children, those parents have it the best.

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      That’s a way cool name!

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    What question? What paper? Inquiring minds want to know!

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      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unethical_human_experimentation_in_the_United_States

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        I once wrote a short paper for a high school science class about MKUltra and the Holmsburg Prison Experiments. Nothing quite like heading a supposed man of science refer to a bunch of humans like they are cattle.

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        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Plutonium_Files

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      The 40s and 50s where the decades for unethical human experimentation. There’s all kind of random shit that we shouldn’t know, but do know because of that period.

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        Not so much that period, but the late 30s - early 40s.

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          That was the era of more horrifying and particularly bad science. The 50s though, that’s the era that brought rules like “you have to provide an honest explanation of what you’re testing to human test subjects” and no they didn’t just think it up as a good rule to have out of the blue.

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        Gotcha, I was just wondering what specific “slightly bad shit“ paper, and ethical dilemma, they had run across

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          Go watch Fringe. It’s probably one of those.

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            Fringe is probably all of those.

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              I have to assume some of them are fiction.

              mostly because it seems a little improbable. Like turning skin transparent? … why…?

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                This happened a couple of months ago…

                https://theconversation.com/scientists-have-figured-out-how-to-see-through-mice-could-humans-be-next-239971

                “This discovery could be revolutionary. Imagine being able to monitor organ function without invasive procedures, or see precisely where a vein is to draw blood. It could also pave the way for breakthroughs in understanding how diseases affect the body at a microscopic level.”

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    Read about FOOF

    Edit: found the reference: https://www.science.org/content/blog-post/things-i-won-t-work-dioxygen-difluoride

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    Whenever you want to know just how bad it would be to drop on your hand some chemical that comes with a concerning number of warning stickers, like hydrazine, there is usually a 1950s paper likely in conjunction with the US Airforce that that can tell you, with receipts.

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    “Do animals experience hope?”

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    Don’t search for the secret explosive that mythbusters discovered

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