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We need to be ready to march in the streets if SCOTUS tries to pull some fuckery. They’re not even supposed to be in the loop on elections. That’s the newly elected Congress’ job.
We need to be ready to march in the streets if entities like local precinct offices or the Georgia Election Board try to pull some fuckery too, long before the fuckery even makes it to the MAGA SCOTUS.
If you’re not marching with guillotines at the ready, there is no point in marching at all.
Hate to break it to ya, but marching in the streets won’t solve this. More drastic measures would have to take place, and frankly I don’t see that happening.
On the contrary a massive number of people on the streets is the only way we’ve seen effective change in the past couple decades. Violence has led to protracted conflicts with a low rate of success.
Examples, please
Ukraine is probably the most recent example. Russia invaded them but before that they threw their president out purely with people in the street.
In Egypt they caused a change of governance that wasn’t a total improvement but was an improvement.
In Tunisia and Algeria they got favorable changes in government.
Now do the US
If SC tries to hand the country over to a lying fascist insurrectionist there will be drastic measures. If they don’t respect the rule of law then that’s the breaking point where we stop respecting their laws. Biden has insane immunity coverage courtesy of the SC so we can start with some “official acts” of removal and see how all this plays out.
LARP. Sounds amazing, really. But they stopped respecting the law long ago and nobody has done or will do jack shit about it.
I like to think so, but I honestly think people would maybe protest a bit but then everyone would go back to work and shrug their shoulders. I’d love to be wrong though.
Liberals have never had the balls to start a revolution, and revolutionaries in the US know better than to let liberals goad them into anything resembling unified action after the last several times
If they pull another Brooks Brother or similar, then we fight.
Sure, yeah, that’ll be when we finally “fight.” Totally. We’re right behind you.
If it comes to the supreme court, its over. Harris needs a minimum of a two state win over Trump. That means she needs to pick up one or both AZ and NC, and PA. GA is out because its basically automatic recount fuckery.
There is another thread about this elsewhere, but way the table is set, it looks like Harris is on track to either a) lose outright, or b) lose at the SC.
Indeed, citizen #14047439! Have you enlisted in the ranks of the inevitable ruler-for-life yet to show your True Patriot loyalty? After all, his reign is inevitable and cannot be stopped, and nothing can be done! Will your jackboots be shined and your uniform crisp when he is inevitably and without any possibility of resistance given the eternal throne?
I dont know what any of that drivel means. You sound like an idiot.
I said if you’re this defeatist about the outcome, why not put on a pair of jackboots and join the ranks of the thugs in uniform? After all, if you can’t beat 'em, join 'em.
Being clear eyed about reality is the only way we can make a difference. Pretending things are other than they are is how and why things have gotten so out of control. It sucks Harris isn’t doing better. I want her to do better. But she isn’t.
We need to demand better from her on Israel/ Palestine, or we lose this election.
You really think that her going hard on that issue will increase her chances of winning in the swing states? Who would that change the minds of, the “undecided”?
Literally the movement of people under the banner “undecided”.
Harris isn’t getting shit for additional votes with endorsements from Cheney Jr or Cheney Sr. Her momentum has completely stalled and she’s backslid in GA and NC. She needs at least one of those two states by a convincing margin.
The uncommitted movement are registered Democrats. Its not some fringe group, but like, the core of the core Democratic expected voters. And they came in between 10-25% of the vote in states where the movement was focusing. Lets say 20% of those voters aren’t going to vote for a pro-genocide candidate?
So call it 2-5% of registered Democratic voters that Harris is leaving on the table with her position on Israel Gaza. Thats orders of magnitude more votes Harris can get by taking a more morally correct, and a more strategically correct position.
She needs to drive out voters who are torn between Harris and the couch because. No one is crossing party lines in 2024.
Well, I sure hope those undecided democrats feel proud of themselves for sticking to their gumption when they get herded into the gas chambers after the other one wins.
