• Whats_your_reasoning@lemmy.world
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    11 days ago

    I wonder how much this will come back to hurt the company. Musk & co. want to play dumb games? Enjoy watching all the potential Xitter users in Brazil flock to Bluesky and other platforms while your site remains in the dark.

    Xitter isn’t special. People will find ways to socialize online with or without it. And the longer people go without it, the more momentum other sites will gain. Whether this stalling is deliberate or unintented doesn’t matter, the fact is they’re only hurting their own bottom line when an entire country is disengaged from their platform.

    In other words, keep it up, Elon. It’s fun to see some natural consequences arise from your stupid behavior.

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    12 days ago

    Keep in mind this is “X, the everything app”. Musk expects it to be your one stop on the internet for everything, including online banking.

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      12 days ago

      Anyone who wants the internet to be like this… It’s hard to describe adequately.

      The idea makes me as angry as I was when I was a kid and first heard about the destruction of the library of Alexandria. It is a deep dark rage.

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        With proper open protocols for communication with various services such a ‘everything’ app could become a thing at some point.

        Where I live we already have a single app (owned for a large part by the govt) we can use to log in to most official services, and any decent-size service can apply to offer log in using it. Going from that concept it really isn’t too much of a stretch to an “everything app” becoming a thing.

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          Your thing and Leon’s dream has one major difference. Thanks to those open protocols, multiple companies could build everything apps and compete on service, with all of them being able to access all you need.

          Leon does not want Twitter to be an everything app, he wants it to be the everything app that you can’t escape, owns all your data, and you can’t get on with doing basic shit without paying him money.

          He basically wants to monopolize everything, because he’s bad at competition, because he’s bad at it.

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    12 days ago

    This is entirely on Twitter. For your average person, sending a court-ordered fine to the wrong institution means it hasn’t been paid.

    Plus, theres the fact that Musk is completely untrustworthy. After all the effort it’s taken to get Twitter to pay up, I wouldn’t restore their ability to earn income from Brazilians until the fine was secured thoroughly and correctly.

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      The xitter lawyers claim that there was no bank account indicated anywhere so they “had to guess” and are demanding xitter to be unlock as they paid the fine.

      In other words, either they’re grossly incompetent and can’t read, or they’re playing malicious by trying to abuse some loophole or anything to ultimately not pay the fine

      EDIT: For some clarification, there is no information publicly available as to where the lawyers sent the money to, only that it wasn’t the account linked to this fine, and that the lawyers are demanding the service to be restored because they claim the fine was paid, but the correct account hasn’t received the money, so the fine is not paid. Alexandre de Moraes has asked Caixa Economica Federal (one of the government banks and the only one that deals with this kind of thing) to “fix” this issue so the attorney’s general office can analyse the process and decide on restoring xitter’s service. Elon Musk, X and the law firm representing them in Brazil are in absolutely no position to contest, much less demand, anything from the supreme court or the attorney’s general office. Their actions have shown time and time again that they have no intention to play fair and regularise the issues, and they’ll try what they can to create instability, animosity and general distrust against Brazil’s judicial system.

      The information regarding payment details for fines is ALWAYS clearly detailed on every notice, there is 0 chance that they forgot to include it or they’ve made a mistake and added a different account.

      The more I read into this the more it looks like the law firm is being malicious instead of stupid, they’re trying all that they can to not pay this fine (on behalf of X & Co.) and also create instability/animosity against the supreme court, specially considering what Musk has done and been doing for this whole case.

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        Yup. Or Musk never expected to pay the fine, so his lawyers never bothered to research the bank where he owed the money.

        I hope the government didn’t let Musk leave the country until his fine was settled.

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          Yeah but here’s the thing, the details for payment of such things is always clearly disclosed on whichever notice they’ve received, and probably this was sent multiple times. Also the lawyers appointed by xitter are Brazilian, in a Brazilian firm, so they are familiar with how this works and the system is not dubious or misleading or confusing at all.

          Like I’ve said, they’re either grossly incompetent to a point that they can’t read anything, or they’re trying their “best” to avoid paying the fine but their best is comically pathetic at most.

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          Or they could keep reading the notice(s) and check out all the clearly stated details on who, where and how to send the fine payment

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      12 days ago

      I wouldn’t trust Musk for anything!

      Not for a million dollars, not for a Brazilian dollars, not even for a trillion dollars!

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    10 days ago

    Have you ever tried to wire money? Its fucking hard. Even the banks give you the wrong info. It usually takes me 1 month on average with about 4 failed transfers before it goes through

    This ks a bank problem

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      10 days ago

      It takes 1 day to wire money and it works on the first try, what are you talking about?

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    11 days ago

    If you want to punish Musk in a meaningful way, then once the fine has been paid in full, the countdown can start. Once the same amount of time that elapsed between Twitter’s first noncompliance and the fine’s check cleared, then Twitter should be allowed back online. There will always be money to pay fines but they’ll never get the time back. Other companies will take note.

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    12 days ago

    On behalf of Banko del Tesoro Nacional de Veracruz Y Pavon Familia Santiago Amen de Guadalupe de Saltillo, gracias, muchisisimas gracias senior Musko!

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      11 days ago

      Look, I’m going to interpret this as Elon sending the money to a bank in sone other part of LatAm. Not only because Brazil’s official language is Portuguese, but also because it’s way funnier like this!

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      12 days ago

      Well, when you fire all the competent people solely so that you can brag about the number of people you fired…