Cards Against Humanity sued SpaceX yesterday, alleging that Elon Musk’s firm illegally took over a plot of land on the US/Mexico border that the party-game company bought in 2017 in an attempt to stymie then-President Trump’s attempt to build a wall.

“As part of CAH’s 2017 holiday campaign, while Donald Trump was President, CAH created a supporter-funded campaign to take a stand against the building of a Border Wall,” said the lawsuit filed in Cameron County District Court in Texas. Cards Against Humanity says it received $15 donations from 150,000 people and used part of that money to buy “a plot of vacant land in Cameron County based upon CAH’s promise to ‘make it as time-consuming and expensive as possible for Trump to build his wall.’”

Cards Against Humanity says it mowed the land “and maintained it in its natural state, marking the edge of the lot with a fence and a ‘No Trespassing’ sign.” But instead of Trump taking over the land, Cards Against Humanity says the parcel was “interfered with and invaded” by Musk’s space company. The lawsuit includes pictures that, according to Cards Against Humanity, show the land when it was first purchased and after SpaceX construction equipment and materials were placed on the land.

  • SchmidtGenetics@lemmy.world
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    So all I take from this is they took your money and did absolutely nothing with it to do anything to protect the land beyond marking it?

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    Our longstanding reputation as a company that makes outrageous promises and actually keeps them is on the line! We promised we’d use every legal tool at our disposal to protect this land from bullies like Trump and Musk (who’s spending millions to get Trump electedand also wants to build the stupid wall). If we don’t take action now, why would anyone ever trust us again?

    Maybe because you didn’t do anything to actually do what you said…?

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      I don’t know why people are downvoting you. At the very least, it seems like they didn’t even check on the land for years. Notice it’s a 2017 photo and a 2024 one. No progress pics in the middle, no “we told them to stop on X and Y date and here’s photos of them continuing”.

      They abandoned the property for years because all they cared about was squatting on the wall being built, which by having the deed they were doing. They didn’t do anything further because that was never their goal.

      So honestly, while what Elon did is shitty and illegal, them trying to claim the some moral high ground by acting like it was an environmental sanctuary is disingenuous. In fairness, the original purpose of stopping the wall from being built is STILL being upheld. Elon’s not building the wall there as far as I can tell. Just storing junk(that CAD should just scrap and sell since it’s abandoned on their lot). Heavy machinery is worth a lot…

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        Preserving land in its natural state is that simple, not touching it. Trespassing and using someone else’s property is illegal. What are you arguing here? I can’t just go store shit on my neighbor’s back yard and say, well he wasn’t using it, and he just didn’t want a wall to be built there and I didn’t build a wall so its fine

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          Did I say it wasn’t illegal? I literally said it is.

          What I’m saying is CAD is pretending they were protecting the environment when in fact all they were doing was squatting a land title. They didn’t actually check on the land at all, which is something you might expect of someone who was actually trying to protect the land and wasn’t just pulling a big publicity stunt.

          So yeah, what I’m saying is the other guy is right: theyre making a big show of saying they care about the land after the fact, but before then did jackcall shit and never even checked on it.

          Elon can be a shithead and CAD could have just been doing a publicity stunt. Both can be true

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            They were planning on using the land legally make trunp struggle to build a wall there and leave it naturalized.

            Trunp didn’t build a wall on that land and it was still left to be nature. That’s pretty much 100% success rate on the desired outcome.

            Apparently you may not like nature but that doesn’t mean their use of the land was wrong.

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              We promised we’d use every legal tool at our disposal to protect this land from bullies like…

              They did less than that actually, it’s this premise that they broke and is what I was talking about, they made a claim, they didn’t even do the bare minimum to protect it, when they said they would do anything.

              Look at every single discussion that missed this detail and says they did the bare minimum, that’s NOT what they promised to do with the money. Lots of people knew this was marketing and a waste of money, and were pointing this out, they never intended to protect it, just looked everything else they took your money and laughed. And that’s all I said.

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      Nah. They bought the land so they could use it for a promotional event.

      And now they are using it for another promotional event.


      In all fairness, CAHcorp (whatever their business name is) are pretty much the epitome of “dumbass white liberals”. Right down to how they are so adamant about “humor” that is just white guys saying racial slurs and talking about dead babies and thinking it is the funniest shit ever. So I can easily see them thinking that just owning the land was all they needed to do because nobody would ever violate the law or ignore their rights.

      I mean, just look at all the replies that boil down to Arthur the aardvark saying “but musk broke the rules!!!”


      Also: This never really would have stopped trump’s wall. Eminent domain would have kicked in (basically what spacex tried) and they would have gotten a pennies on the dollar check and told to go fuck themselves.

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          We promised we’d use every legal tool at our disposal to protect this land from bullies like

          Thats literally what they promised to do with the money they fleeced from people though….

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            We promised we’d use every legal tool at our disposal

            I’m sorry, do they have a cavalry?

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              They could rent one, or patrol it more often than they did. They made a claim, and failed to follow through on it, and this isn’t the first time.

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                Are you literally refreshing for my reply? Jesus fucking Christ. You guys are insufferable, and have unrealistic expectations. Enjoy always being disappointed in life and may you stub your toe on the way to the bathroom every night

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                  Ironic considering how fast you responded to me.

                  And I’ve only pointed out that there was more they could have done, and they claimed they would do anything.

                  I’m sorry that trying to have a conversation about this upsets you so, but why do people always try to derail conversations that don’t align with their (in this case) objectively wrong views? There is a hell of a lot more they could have done to protect the land, and they claimed they would, and failed on that. Why does this upset you so much?

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      One might argue that ‘doing nothing’ with land was an extremely good way of protecting it, but one would have to be talking to someone who was operating in good faith if they were to bother to do so…

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        Just buying land does what? Show a presence, if they mowed it how often like they claimed it wouldn’t have gotten that bad before noticing. Put an actual fence on it, what they use? Some stakes a twine? I’m having a discussion so we can figure these details out, what are you doing than insulting someone for trying to talk?

        This also is t he first time they failed in their expectations, the hole they dug was a failure, they had to constantly modify their claim because they didn’t realize they rules and regulations regarding making. A safe deep excavation.

        I’m trying to discuss in good faith, the fuck is this? I provided a quote to show my particular issue and described it, what part of my comment is not trying to discuss in good faith? If anything you going straight to insulting someone is the one lacking any sort of civility here.

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          You’re not discussing in good faith, you’re victim blaming. “If you didn’t want SpaceX to dump stuff on your property you should’ve put a fence up” is victim blaming.

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            They said they would do anything possible, I’m calling out they did the bare minimum, or less when they said they would do ANYTHING. This is the extremely important detail everyone seems to be ignoring, they PROMISED to do anything possible, which they failed to do.

            Just because I have a different opinion or see things in a. Different light doesn’t make me arguing in bad faith, that’s a fallacy people use to derail from their circle jerks.