Last night I was on Flashpoints with Dennis Bernstein about Matt Nelson, who is by all indications the person who immolated themselves across from the Israeli consulate in Boston on Sept.
Why would you think that people who have the courage to act on their principles would regret it?
The amount of self determination it must take to smell the gasoline and still strike the match makes me think that the people who do this are capable of living with the consequences of their actions.
I don’t think it’s realistic to assume you understand the mental state of someone who’s already proved they are capable of setting themselves on fire to make a point.
I’ve not heard any reporting say this. I’ve seen internet commenters presume this, but just because someone engaged in an action that could result in their death, doesn’t mean they’re suicidal.
Starting ones self on fire is a suicide attempt, regardless of political motive. This isn’t the same as sky diving or even trying to see the Titanic in a carbon fiber pod, this is pure and simple, self immolation to death that failed, so far.
I think someone who has the self determination to go ahead with this expects to not survive. Doing it and unexpectedly surviving and having to live a likely painful rest of your life is different.
Please. I’ve already seen ghoulish, unprincipled crackers talking about “the world is tired of martyrs” on this very site. Not one singular settler scumbag is going to change their ways over this. We need to stop immolating ourselves and start burning the real problems.
If he makes it, he is going to be infinitely full of regret with the consequences he’ll have to live with.
Why would you think that people who have the courage to act on their principles would regret it?
The amount of self determination it must take to smell the gasoline and still strike the match makes me think that the people who do this are capable of living with the consequences of their actions.
I think you might not know very much about the pain of third degree burns.
Third degree burns don’t hurt because the burns destroyed the nerves. Source: Had 3rd degree burns. The skin graft hurt more.
I don’t think it’s realistic to assume you understand the mental state of someone who’s already proved they are capable of setting themselves on fire to make a point.
They were suicidal, and now they’re trapped.
I’ve not heard any reporting say this. I’ve seen internet commenters presume this, but just because someone engaged in an action that could result in their death, doesn’t mean they’re suicidal.
Starting ones self on fire is a suicide attempt, regardless of political motive. This isn’t the same as sky diving or even trying to see the Titanic in a carbon fiber pod, this is pure and simple, self immolation to death that failed, so far.
You don’t have to be suicidal to jump on a grenade
Is being a soldier assigned to conduct an assault operation also a suicide attempt?
Knowingly doing something that might kill you is not the sole criteria for a suicide attempt. If they weren’t suicidal it wasn’t a suicide attempt.
~Merriam-Webster Dictionary
I think someone who has the self determination to go ahead with this expects to not survive. Doing it and unexpectedly surviving and having to live a likely painful rest of your life is different.
That just means he can do it again.
People very rarely survive significant burns. I know the article says 50/50, but he is essentially dead. The infection risk is just too high.
I think what will hurt worse is that the genocide is still talking place and his sacrifice didn’t move the needle as much as he would have expected.
I don’t think you can presume to know what he expected when he hasn’t said what he expected, or to know the effect it’s had within a handful of days.
Please. I’ve already seen ghoulish, unprincipled crackers talking about “the world is tired of martyrs” on this very site. Not one singular settler scumbag is going to change their ways over this. We need to stop immolating ourselves and start burning the real problems.