Personally I think a lot of this is overblown. Specifically the not wanting shirtless scenes and stuff is a personal thing that’s up to the comfort of the actor. The bits I don’t like are harassing women and his previous comments about the MeToo movement which make me far more likely to believe the current accusations against him.
Ah, yes. The “toxic gamer” accusations. Yeah. To me that reads like he was not happy with how they handled source material and did his best to fight it (which yeah, not his place to do that, but as someone who also loves Witcher I can relate). And then they tried to spin it as being mysoginyst (they tried so hard to spin itin any way so that he ends up looking bad back then). Also source of the article being Reddit doesn’t exactly fill me with confidence.
After these accusations I remember other articles with fellow female cast members at the least saying things about hin as a person that are in complete oposition to the accusations.
Not saying he is a saint, I don’t idolize him. But it’s hard for me to believe those accusations.
Romantic plots and shirtless scenes are also included in both books and games of the Witcher so him being against those is super weird as well. Romantic plots are pretty core to some of the stories
which yeah, not his place to do that, but as someone who also loves Witcher I can relate
Why wouldn’t it be his place to argue for more respect for the source material? or simply a better script?! It is his face in there, instead of an awesome show, we got, well… whatever the hell that was and his face is attached to it forever.
I have no idea about show business but if I sign up to play Dracula and now they tell me the script calls for a Dracula that has no powers and instead is only a genetically diseased person with hardcore anemia, I would probably fight the script as well
From how I see it, he is an actor. He is expected to get a script and act accordingly. Depends on the director and others how open they can be about it and how much freedom the actors get. But I don’t talk from experience.
Now as a Witcher fan, I understand Cavill completely. He cared for source materials and got writers and showrunner who didn’t. Some writers allegedly even actively didn’t like the source material. So of course he would fight it. I can imagine ways that are good, and I can imagine ways that may be stepping out of line from writers perspective.
Most things I saw of him being a great cast member were earlier in his career and this seems to be a very recent thing to happen. I don’t think he’s always been bad in any respect but people do change overtime and America has been increasingly radicalized recently. I’m not surprised that this has happened and it could happen to anyone.
I’m pretty sure the cast members reactions I remember were from Witcher.
Also, if you are a fan of the source material and writers are not (and some actively mock it, allegedly) - I can imagine you being a dick to them - no matter their gender
No they are not fine in any sense. If they are true, they are awful, but in order to prove them, we need a better source. A PRIMARY source. Some corroborating evidence. Give us something more than 3 layers of hearsay which would be beyond inadmissible in court.
Although you are reciting a source, your source is so indirect and unproven that you’re basically dancing on the line of defamation (although of course no one could give enough of a shit to sue).
If you alledge those things, you better have a good reason and at least a handful of evidence. Otherwise you are doing a disservice to every woman out there trying to prove awful allegations, because she has to fight all the mistrust you are building up.
I’ve seen some accusations, which other (also female) members of cast/crew pretty much disprove. So I will echo others - source?
I’d seen this all multiple places before but doing a quick search here is a source on the most recent round of Netflix and superman stuff
Source
Personally I think a lot of this is overblown. Specifically the not wanting shirtless scenes and stuff is a personal thing that’s up to the comfort of the actor. The bits I don’t like are harassing women and his previous comments about the MeToo movement which make me far more likely to believe the current accusations against him.
Ah, yes. The “toxic gamer” accusations. Yeah. To me that reads like he was not happy with how they handled source material and did his best to fight it (which yeah, not his place to do that, but as someone who also loves Witcher I can relate). And then they tried to spin it as being mysoginyst (they tried so hard to spin itin any way so that he ends up looking bad back then). Also source of the article being Reddit doesn’t exactly fill me with confidence.
After these accusations I remember other articles with fellow female cast members at the least saying things about hin as a person that are in complete oposition to the accusations.
Not saying he is a saint, I don’t idolize him. But it’s hard for me to believe those accusations.
Romantic plots and shirtless scenes are also included in both books and games of the Witcher so him being against those is super weird as well. Romantic plots are pretty core to some of the stories
Why wouldn’t it be his place to argue for more respect for the source material? or simply a better script?! It is his face in there, instead of an awesome show, we got, well… whatever the hell that was and his face is attached to it forever.
I have no idea about show business but if I sign up to play Dracula and now they tell me the script calls for a Dracula that has no powers and instead is only a genetically diseased person with hardcore anemia, I would probably fight the script as well
From how I see it, he is an actor. He is expected to get a script and act accordingly. Depends on the director and others how open they can be about it and how much freedom the actors get. But I don’t talk from experience.
Now as a Witcher fan, I understand Cavill completely. He cared for source materials and got writers and showrunner who didn’t. Some writers allegedly even actively didn’t like the source material. So of course he would fight it. I can imagine ways that are good, and I can imagine ways that may be stepping out of line from writers perspective.
Most things I saw of him being a great cast member were earlier in his career and this seems to be a very recent thing to happen. I don’t think he’s always been bad in any respect but people do change overtime and America has been increasingly radicalized recently. I’m not surprised that this has happened and it could happen to anyone.
I’m pretty sure the cast members reactions I remember were from Witcher.
Also, if you are a fan of the source material and writers are not (and some actively mock it, allegedly) - I can imagine you being a dick to them - no matter their gender
You call it overblown and disapprove… But then keep posting the questionable source.
This is how you get bots to pick up links, and how you start rumors.
I think them being upset about an actor being uncomfortable always being sexualized is overblown.
I think the parts about him harassing women are fine.
No they are not fine in any sense. If they are true, they are awful, but in order to prove them, we need a better source. A PRIMARY source. Some corroborating evidence. Give us something more than 3 layers of hearsay which would be beyond inadmissible in court.
Although you are reciting a source, your source is so indirect and unproven that you’re basically dancing on the line of defamation (although of course no one could give enough of a shit to sue).
If you alledge those things, you better have a good reason and at least a handful of evidence. Otherwise you are doing a disservice to every woman out there trying to prove awful allegations, because she has to fight all the mistrust you are building up.