• earmuff@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    3 months ago

    Serious question: is there a way to get access to medical imagery as a non-student? I would love to do some machine learning with it myself, as I see lot’s of potential in image analysis in general. 5 years ago I created a model that was able to spot certain types of ships based only on satellite imagery, which were not easily detectable by eye and ignoring the fact that one human cannot scan 15k images in one hour. Similar use case with medical imagery - seeing the things that are not yet detectable by human eyes.

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      Yeah there are some openly available datasets on competition sites like Kaggle, and some medical data is available through public institutions like like NIH.

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      3 months ago

      Yeah there is. A bloke I know did exactly that with brain scans for his masters.

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      5 years ago I created a model that was able to spot certain types of ships based only on satellite imagery, which were not easily detectable by eye and ignoring the fact that one human cannot scan 15k images in one hour.

      what is your intended use case? are you trying to help government agencies perfect spying? sounds very cringe ngl

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        My intended use case is to find possibilities how ML can support people with certain tasks. Science is not political, for what my technology is abused, I cannot control. This is no reason to stop science entirely, there will always be someone abusing something for their own gain.

        But thanks for assuming without asking first what the context was.

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          find possibilities how ML can support people with certain tasks

          Marxism-Leninism? anakin-padme-2

          Oh, Machine Learning. sicko-wistful

          Science is not political

          in an ideal world maybe, but that is not our world. In reality science is always always political. It is unavoidable.

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            Typical hexbear reply lol

            Unfortunately, you are right, though. Science can be political. My science is not. I like my bubble.

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              Typical hexbear reply

              Unfortunately, you are right

              Yes, typically hexbear replies are right.

              It’s not unfortunate though, it’s simply a matter of having an understanding of the world and a willingness to accept it and engage with it. It’s too bad that you seem not to want that understanding or that you lack the willingness to accept it.

              My science is not. I like my bubble.

              How can you possibly square that first short sentence with the second? Are you really that willfully hypocritical? Yes, “your” science is political. No science escapes it, and the people who do science thinking themselves and their work is unaffected by their ideology are the most effected by ideology. No wonder you like your bubble - from within it, you don’t have to concern yourself with any of the real world or even the smallest sliver of self reflection. But all it is is a happy, self-reinforcing delusion. You pretend to be someone who appreciates science, but if you truly did, you would be doing everything you can to recognize your unavoidable biases rather than denying them while simultaneously wallowing in them, which is what you are openly admitting to doing whether you realize it or not.

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          My intended use case is to find possibilities how ML can support people with certain tasks.

          weaselly bullshit. how exactly do you intend for people to use technology that identifies ships via satellite? what is your goal? because the only use cases I can see for this are negative

          This is no reason to stop science entirely

          if the only thing your tech can be used for is bad then you’re bad for innovating that tech

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            Ever thought about identifying ships full of refugees and send help, before their ships break apart and 50 people drown?

            Of course you have not. Your hatered makes you blind. Close minds never were able to see why science is important. Now enjoy spreading hate somewhere else.

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              Ever thought about identifying ships full of refugees and send help, before their ships break apart and 50 people drown?

              No, I didn’t think about that. If you did, why exactly were you so hostile to me asking what use you thought this might serve?

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                I don’t think my reply was hostile, I just criticized your behavior assuming things, before you know the whole truth. I kept everything neutral and didn’t have the urge to have a discussion with someone already on edge. I hope you understand and also learn that not everything is entirely evil in this world. Please stay curious - don’t assume.

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                  I just criticized your behavior assuming things, before you know the whole truth.

                  I didn’t assume anything. I asked you what your intended use case was and you responded with vague platitudes, sarcasm, and then once I pressed further, insults. Try re-reading your comments from a more objective standpoint and you’ll find neutrality nowhere within them.

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                    (…) are you trying to help government agencies perfect spying? sounds very cringe ngl

                    Tell me again which part of your reply is telling me, you are actually interested in an objective discussion, without assuming things and wanting to start a fight for no reason.

                    I struggle to find that part.