You’ll have to explain what you think I don’t understand and how you came to that conclusion.

Funny because it you talk to libertarians, we’ve never had a pure capitalist society. You probably just don’t realize how similar they all are to the people who claim we’ve never tried our Communism.

It’s widespread adoption, almost certainly resulting in the unnecessary suffering of millions of people, has been hampered by anti-scienitific fanatics. So let’s not confuse that with there being something wrong with golden rice or it not existing.

But if that isn’t enough, we have fast growing salmon, non browning apples, and pink pineapple which are all gmos on the market that don’t have to do with pesticides or pest resistance. If we include ones that are simply resistant to viruses, then the list grows substantially more.

Then why not say that rather than the patently false claim that it’s only for pesticides? You also express some more misconceptions: seeds, regardless of how they are made are patented, are rarely reused farmers pretty much always buy new seeds. This is not an issue limited to gmos. Parents are not just for GMO plants. Again, a separate issue.

You’re issue seems to be with capitalism, not GMO a tool used by capitalists to make more money.

More than none, which is enough to disprove your claim.

I’m an idiot. My bad.

Golden rice does neither of these two things. Not that the facts matter when it comes to our irrational fear of gmos.

Gmos go through far more rigorous testing requirements than new organisms created by traditional means. you’ve got it completely backwards.

You’re problem is with pesticides, not GMO. Youve just been convinced by the people trying to amalgamate GMO and pesticides. You know who stands to make a lot of profit from that? The corporations pushing organics into a fast growing 70 billion dollar industry.

Speak for yourself, asshole. Call for corporate regulation, don’t blame all of humanity equally.

Sure not equally. But go into any thread on this topic and talk about what individuals can do to minimize their own impact - because the reality is that we all need to shift on it behaviors not just corporations (even if they are the largest by far) - and then come back and tell me how confident you are that it isn’t all humanity.

It’s shocking to me how many people deny climate change, but it’s even more shocking to me how much push back you get from people about actually doing anything individually, when they realize it is happening.

They’re literally just calling them weird, my man. If this is “needlessly vitriolic” then it might be time to look in the mirror because calling me a bad person is at least as bad as that.

Yeah this is mindboggling. It wouldn’t have ever crossed her mind to tell her kid that they don’t need oxygen canisters on this planet? I mean, what the dad said is good, as it opened the door to some more learning… but wow.

Can’t explain it, huh?

You’re free to vote for whoever you want for whatever reason you want. Everyone else is free to point out how absolutely ridiculous those reasons are, especially when it’s clearly contradictory to what you are claiming to actually care about.

What’s the onion joke then?

Holy shit is this really going to be the new “both sides”?

“they might be actually attacking people for being different…but Democrats are calling them weird for this. I can’t, in good conscience, vote for Democrats!”

It’s a satire site already. It’s shocking how many people here seem to not understand that. It’s so obvious because they say the guy is 27 but the picture is of someone in their 50s. Hell even just look at the sub.

People desperately need to develop better critical eyes, especially when it confirms your belief.

It’s stupid long, just as a warning, and there are lots of episodes about battles.

Awesome thanks.

Any recommendations as to what to read or listen to?