I don’t think they were going to kill him. I think their play was to bring him off-site “for his safety” so he couldn’t certify the election, at most a kidnapping.
The whole thing was too noncommittal by the big players in case things went to shit, which it did. They didn’t have the balls to plan out an assassination of the VP.
It might have worked if they had the balls to do that, and other things.
God damn, I hate him reguardless. But sometimes you forget how absurd it is. He started and endorsed a riot that stormed the capital with gallows, pressured the vice president not to certify an election that was obviously legit. Then supposedly Pence was afraid to get into a ss car because he knew his safety was in question.
That’s fucking insane. It’s fucking insane how obvious it is that he is trying to undermine America and its institutions, its government, its "democracy ". He’s not even trying to hide it. It’s his rallying cry. In the country that his party pretends to love.
And whats even more insane is here we are, in a situation where we are worried about half the country voluntarily wanting it to happen.
I am as apathetic as they come about our broken system. I want the whole thing to burn down and rebuild, but not by handing the keys over to a tyrant. There is no rebuilding after that. Not in my lifetime.
Your lede is sort of buried and is far more telling and scary.
Pence afraid to get in an SS car…
So if we expand on this - Pence was afraid for his life. He was afraid of the very agency sworn to protect him. Despite the potential threat to his life, even today he will not directly speak out against the authoritarianism that led to the situation he found himself in. He will not speak out against trump. The most he has done is simply not endorse trump.
So that’s how completely fucked up the republicans are. You can have your life in the balance as one of the literal highest elected officials in the nation, yet you won’t speak out. You won’t try to stop it from getting worse.
This is no different than Stalin’s regime, Mao’s, or any other uber-dictator that caused millions of deaths in the name of power and control.
I cannot possibly emphasize enough how hell-bent on boot-licking dictatorship the Republican Party must be if this is the case.
Maybe the biggest reason he won’t speak out is because he won’t get reelected. Which is scary in itself. But, let’s not pretend Pence is some sort of Saint. He is evil too.
After not having crimed Trump into a second Term, he has to know that the MAGA crowd would rather hang him than let him have any office while they’re in power. So if getting elected were his primary concern, making sure Trump is not put into power would be Pence’s primary objective. And he’s just laying low, not working against Trump, so we can be sure that getting reelected is either not his goal or he’s more afraid than he is ambitious.
People keep pestering me about how Republicans aren’t literal Nazis when I compare them to literal Nazis.
I don’t want to be judicious and exact about Nazis. I want to freak out and notice when a group starts seeming like Nazis.
So due to the fact that they’re probably going to kill us all now that we hesitated too many times, I’ll say it at last: it’s morally correct to punch people who aren’t freaked out about Nazis.
People who say “they aren’t as bad as the Nazis” always only think about the time after 1934 or even 1939. This, right now is the before-time. Of course they aren’t as bad as the successful, established, in control Nazis yet. But if you look at the time between 1920 and 1933, when the NSDAP wasn’t in power yet, the parallels are terrifying.
not helpful. childish acting out, really. i’ll agree that it’s justifiable to be scared but it’s rarely helpful to act scared and hit people because you can’t make your point to them. regardless if whether your fucked up morality tells you it’s okay, it’s still not helpful, it’s still clearly about your own emotional needs and not about making the world better.
Pence declined to endorse him, but is still gonna vote for him anyhow.
