• AVincentInSpace@pawb.social
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    If you like: pretending that killing an animal is morally equivalent to killing a human

    You should try: growing a brain

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      4 months ago

      When did I say that? My statement points out that rituals to make yourself feel better about killing an animal do not change that animal’s experience of being killed or the moral weight of that action

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        You said they were morally equivalent when you called it murder, and you said it again just now. Why does killing an animal for food carry any moral weight? Cheetahs don’t get any flak for hunting caribou.

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          A human is an animal too, so i might kill it for food with no moral weight to it. Great.

          But if you compare yourself to a cheetah, I get that your intellect and morals are just… Primal 😁

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          You said they were morally equivalent when you called it murder

          I didn’t, actually

          and you said it again just now

          I didn’t, actually

          Why does killing an animal for food carry any moral weight?

          Because humans aren’t special unique beings with souls that make us the only ones with moral worth. Many animals are capable of suffering and emotion.

          Cheetahs don’t get any flak for hunting caribou.

          We are the ones with the social system allowing for moral frameworks to guide our decisionmaking. Cheetahs aren’t moral agents. And if they are, they follow cheetah morality. Plus, they are obligate carnivores anyway (which is why your cat should not be deprived of meat)

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            You said they were morally equivalent when you called it murder

            I didn’t, actually

            Yes you did, that’s what the word “murder” means

            your cat shouldn’t be deprived of meat

            All right then. Do you believe that owning a cat is immoral, since in order for the cat to thrive, creatures with souls must die?

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              There are no creatures with souls. But no, I wouldn’t say keeping a cat in general is immoral. There are definitely ethical concerns around things like kitten breeding mills and letting cats roam around outdoors, though

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                  We are the ones with the social system allowing for moral frameworks to guide our decisionmaking. Cheetahs aren’t moral agents … Plus, they are obligate carnivores anyway (which is why your cat should not be deprived of meat)

                  please act in good faith or let me know that you’re not interested in doing so

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                    Why is me killing a chicken to feed to my cat morally acceptable, but me killing a chicken to feed to myself is not? In both cases the one with the moral code is doing the killing.

                    Do you believe that if there were a race of intelligent aliens who were obligate carnivores, they should be allowed to slaughter humans for food? It sounds like you think the answer is yes. I would agree, provided the humans were treated humanely.