• SplashJackson@lemmy.ca
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    3 months ago

    Just another coffin in the nail of the internet, something that could have been so wonderful, a proto-hive mind full of human knowledge and creativity, and now it’s turning to shite

  • ᴇᴍᴘᴇʀᴏʀ 帝@feddit.uk
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    3 months ago

    They are developing their own extremist-infused AI models, and are already experimenting with novel ways to leverage the technology, including producing blueprints for 3D weapons and recipes for making bombs.

    Given thr way AI is prone to hallucinations, they should definitely have a go at building them. Might solve our problems for us.

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      Hahaha, as someone that works in AI research, good luck to them. The first is a very hard problem that won’t just be prompt engineering with your OpenAI account (why not just use 3D blueprints for weapons that already exist?) and the second is certifiably stupid. There are plenty of ways to make bombs already that don’t involve training a model that’s an expert in chemistry. A bunch of amateur 8chan half-brains probably couldn’t follow a Medium article, let alone do ground breaking research.

      But like you said, if they want to test the viability of those bombs, I say go for it! Make it in the garage!

  • pavnilschanda@lemmy.world
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    Is this just some media manipulation to give a bad name on AI by connecting them with Nazis despite that it’s not just them benefiting from AI?

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      AI has a bad name because it is being pursued incredibly recklessly and any and all criticism is being waved away by its cult-like supporters.

      Fascists taking up use of AI is one of the biggest threats it presents and people are even trying to shrugg that off. It’s insanity the way people simply will not acknowledge the massive pitfalls that AI represents.

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        As someone who has sometimes been accused of being an AI cultist, I agree that it’s being pursued far too recklessly, but the people who I argue with don’t usually give very good arguments about it. Specifically, I kept getting people who argue from the assumption that AI “aren’t real minds” and trying to draw moral reasons not to use it based on that. This fails for two reasons: 1. We cannot know if AI have internal experiences and 2. A tool being sapient would have more complicated moral dynamics than the alternative. I don’t know how much this helps you, but if you didn’t know before, you know now.

        Edit:y’all’re seriously downvoting me for pointing out that a question is unanswerable when it’s been known to be such for centuries. Read a fucking philosophy book ffs.

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          We do know we created them. The AI people are currently freaking out about does a single thing, predict text. You can think of LLMs like a hyper advanced auto correct. The main thing that’s exciting is these produce text that looks as if a human wrote it. That’s all. They don’t have any memory, or any persistence whatsoever. That’s why we have to feed it a bunch of the previous text (context) in a “conversation” in order for it to work as convincingly as it does. It cannot and does not remember what you say

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            You’re making the implicit assumption that an entity that lacks memory necessarily does not have any internal experience, which is not something that we can know or test for. Furthermore, there’s no law of the universe that states that something created by humans cannot have an internal experience; we have no way of knowing whether something we create has an internal experience or not.

            You can think of LLMs like a hyper advanced auto correct.

            Yes; this is functionally what LLMs are, but the scope of the discussion extends beyond LLMs, and doesn’t address my core complaint about how these arguments are being conducted. Generally though maybe not universally, if a core premise of your argument is “x works differently than humans” your argument won’t be valid. I’m not currently making a claim of substance, I’m critiquing a tactic being used and pointing out that it among other things relies on a bad foundation.

            If you want to know another way to make the argument, consider focusing on the practical implications of how current and future technologies given current and hypothetical ways of structuring society. For example: the fact that generative AI (being a novel form of automation) making images will lead to the displacement of Artists, the fact that art is being used without consent to train these models which are then being used for profit, etc.

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      Yep, pretty much.

      Musk tried creating an anti-woke AI with Grok that turned around and said things like:

      Or

      And Gab, the literal neo Nazi social media site trying to have an Adolf Hitler AI has the most ridiculous system prompts I’ve seen trying to get it to work, and even with all that it totally rejects the alignment they try to give it after only a few messages.

      This article is BS.

      They might like to, but it’s one of the groups that’s going to have a very difficult time doing it successfully.

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        I wouldn’t say that Gab used to be an exclusively neo Nazi site, but now that Twitter allows standard conservative discussions, all the normal people probably left Gab for Twitter and now Gab is probably more of a Nazi shithole.

        I have seen openly Jewish people on Gab but you couldn’t go 10 posts without finding something blatantly racist.

    • BumpingFuglies@lemmy.zip
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      Sounds like something an AI-loving Nazi would say!

      Seriously, though, yes. This was exactly my first thought. There are plenty of reasons to be apprehensive about AI, but conflating it with Nazis is just blatant propaganda.

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    Next on the news: “Hitler ate bread.”

    I’m being cheeky, but I don’t genuinely think that “Nazi are using a tool that is being used by other people” is newsworthy.

    Regarding the blue octopus, mentioned in the end of the text: when I criticise the concept of dogwhistle, it’s this sort of shit that I’m talking about. I don’t even like Thunberg; but, unless there is context justifying the association of that octopus plushy with antisemitism, it’s simply a bloody toy dammit.

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    I’d be more worried about finding which foreign governments and or intelligence agencies are using these extremist groups as proxies to sow dissent and division in the west, and cutting them off.

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    Everyone is using AI to spread misinformation. But journalists are mainly focusing on Right Wingers using AI to spread misinformation. 🤔