• kescusay@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    It’s horrifying that she’s jailed for having been attacked. What the fuck is wrong with you, Arizona?

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      1 year ago

      How do you know she did not start the physical violence? The fact that she did not call the police is not some brave feature as stated. The fact that others called the police is somewhat more likely that she may have been in the wrong.

      This article is extremely biased. Do people just automatically assume anything written on the web is the absolute truth? They didn’t bother to even mention any other side to this story.

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        1 year ago

        Oh, come on… Four drunk guys start harassing a woman, then get aggressive and belligerent when they find out she’s trans, and somehow she must have started it?

        This is her:

        Look at her. Does she look scary? How likely do you think it is that she was walking along looking for a fight with four guys? Given the violence trans women all too often receive at the hands of men, it’s much more likely she was legitimately scared for her life.

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          1 year ago

          Seriously? I don’t know what happened but are you saying someone can’t start kicking people out pull out a knife or simply punch someone based on their size. This is a completely bias article but people take it as fact. So biased they use words like she ‘courageously’ didn’t call the police but instead other people called the police in her.

          I am glad we now use looks alone to determine if someone might be innocent or guilty.

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            1 year ago

            Tell you what… I’ll concede that it’s technically possible she instigated the violence if you’ll concede that it’s statistically far, far more likely that she was yet another victim of anti-trans violence, followed by bias from the police. (FYI, trans women frequently don’t call the police when they’ve been victimized, out of fear of being victimized even more.)

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              1 year ago

              I will absolutely concede trans people are much more likely to be the victim of violence. I know enough to see this first hand. How does that in any way negate that she might be there instigator?

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                1 year ago

                It doesn’t, but it means I’m far more willing to give her the benefit of the doubt until there’s solid evidence that she was, in fact, the one who started the violence. (And pepper-spraying someone who’s threatening you doesn’t count.)

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              1 year ago

              read the comment from someone who did some digging and found that she has a significant police record in multiple states, including warrants for her arrest. There is clearly more to this story than we have here. Those warrants could still be BS, but we here don’t know. The takeaway is that if a situation seems clearly cut and dry… it almost never is.

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        1 year ago

        Yeah IDK about you, but if I’m getting jumped by 4 drunk dudes, my mind’s going to be on getting to safety and/or getting them the fuck away from me before I attempt fumbling for my pocket computer with a fragile screen that requires precise inputs for it to actually do the thing you want it to.

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          1 year ago

          How do you know she got jumped by for guys? Seriously how do you know this?

          Was she drunk? Did she attack one guy then the other guys pulled her off? Why didn’t she call the police but instead these guys called the police? That last being there only thing we are certain about.