Well, I get what you’re saying, but I’m European and while there are plenty of right-wingers here, I haven’t met any actual obvious Trumpers so far, though I’m sure plenty of them do like Trump.

Was just kinda wondering ‘out loud’ if there is an actual line somewhere and what it would be. It seems to me it’s much easier for democrats to turn against their politicians than it is for republicans.

Find them and ask them.

You have apparently had much more productive conversations with trumpers than I ever have.

ask them what it would take to choose their country over their party.

And, it’s not hard to predict their answers.

• Treat trans people like monsters and pedophiles, and legislate as such.
• Knock gays back to the 80s or earlier via legislation
• The rest of the queer community needs to STFU and pretend they don’t exist.
• Cancel all DEI programs and make them illegal
• Make Pride month celebrations illegal at all businesses or public areas
• Follow the DeSantis model of history teaching, by trying to claim slavery was a benefit to slaves, or that Harriet Tubman was just having a bad day and sat at the wrong end of the bus, etc
• Support police without question - as long as it’s the blacks, gays, antifa, and left-leaning protesters they are beating up on
• Eliminate birth control and abortions nationally
• Put back all those civil war memorials because muh heritage
• Restrict college and high school curricula to Republican-approved materials on a national level
• Cease all climate-change measures or spending
• Acknowledge there is no solution to gun violence that involves restricting the activities of gun owners.

That’s pretty close to the list for anyone who is flying a Trump flag. And if it’s not on their list, it’s still not a dealkiller.

Outreach will win the day.

You’d need to put me in kevlar and pay me a lot to go knocking on maga doors all day.