• sylver_dragon@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    70
    ·
    6 months ago

    Microsoft doesn’t care about you. So long as businesses are choosing Entra, Azure and O365, you the average end user can go suck a penguin cock for all they care. I’d still agree it’s a bad long term plan. Eventually, people will start growing up not using Windows, not knowing Microsoft products and not understanding why anyone would choose Microsoft. But, that’s some other person’s problem in the far off future. Until then, it’s time to pump those short term numbers up.

    • bl_r@lemmy.dbzer0.com
      cake
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      24
      arrow-down
      2
      ·
      6 months ago

      Absolutely.

      I work in Cybersecurity, and although I loathe windows, I love the enterprise tier solutions microsoft has. Azure AD is great for management, it has useful federation features, and having centralized logins is useful during incidents.

      Their DLP suite is phenomenal too. O365 logs integrate their platforms together in a convenient way.

      But windows 11? Windows server? Practically anything else they touch (fuck azure cloud) is Disgusting. I’d rather throw my hard drive out the window and use a ancient drive with temple os than use windows 11

      • nehal3m@sh.itjust.works
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        9
        ·
        6 months ago

        So their amazing management platform ultimately manages the pile of horse shit the end user will have to deal with. That is shit with extra steps.

        • bl_r@lemmy.dbzer0.com
          cake
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          2
          ·
          6 months ago

          Their platform is only good from the perspective of an administrator.

          But it really does manage the pile of horseshit that they make. And it all runs off that pile of shit too, you need windows server to set up ADDS, for example.

          Its like a pretty tower with a basement full of shit. If you can ignore the shit or avoid it it’s not that bad

      • theangryseal@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        6
        ·
        edit-2
        6 months ago

        My uncle isn’t particularly tech savvy, like, at all. I finally had him good to go on Windows XP. The transition to Windows Vista and then 7 went well enough with minor issues here and there. Big problems started with 10, and now that he’s stuck on 11 he is completely lost.

        I haven’t used it much because I switched everything over to Linux on my end awhile ago.

        I spent over and hour on the phone with him yesterday trying to help him copy a damn file. I had to get him to read every little thing he seen on the screen to make it work and finally realized “show more options” is a thing.

        He said, “I swear to you, copy and paste is gone. All I see is copy as path. What the hell is copy as path?”

        Older users are totally screwed now. I had him good to go by explaining explorer as a file cabinet with a little bit of magic here and there. Now it takes ages to get anything done.

        And getting his printer going the other day over the phone. Good god.

        Some of these changes are absurd and they make absolutely no sense whatsoever. For those of us who grew up on computers we can just growl and figure it out. Why should we have to though?

        I wish I had started him on Mac OS years ago. I really do.

      • vulgarcynic@sh.itjust.works
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        2
        ·
        edit-2
        6 months ago

        I’m fully expecting Windows 365 to replace their desktop offerings as 10 goes EoL and 11 adoption slows in the Enterprise space.

        They know the money is in enterprise and it’s a nightmare currently to maintain desktop os’es with Defender as the EDR.

        Shift that to the cloud and use Entra for access? It’s a new golden goose. Patching is simplified and you can continually charge for compute and telemetry access. Why wouldn’t they go this direction?