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This post is about student loans
And video game piracy. Also free housing. Pretty much anywhere where finances are involved, some people want to fuck the next generation instead of helping them.
Wait why piracy all of a sudden. Didn’t we agree that people who don’t buy games won’t buy them anyway even if piracy didn’t exist? Thus the denuvo lack of purpose because it doesn’t raise sales. Yet many of those same folks are willing to pay to indie devs even if their games are often laughably easy to pirate. It’s about the principles.
For example Hollywood is such rotten hive of misogynist assholes that one may not want to fund them. Or not get royalty to Rowling for the potter game.
By starving bad companies we have a personal freedom to leave generations with only the best devs and brands such as Larian-motherfuking-Studios.
Hell if it wasn’t so risky IRL I’d probably steal Nestle food by tons and share it too. Let’s leave generations without that company.
“You guys should install denuvo into your game because console players have to pay to play it but on PC you can just pirate it. It’s not fair for them to get to play it for free while we had to buy it”
That’s why we should decriminalize pirating because it’s unfair for those who did it and didn’t get caught (which is the majority) or rather the companies who suffered from that.
You wouldn’t criminalize drinking clear water
How about slowing the trolley down then, instead of stopping it. Would that be a deal?
and most wars
… I hate how accurate this is. Very impressive.
Goddammit this is brilliant in so many ways, and no we are not the ones pulling the lever, in real life trolley problem.
I wanted to come into the comments to gush the same thing! Enthusiastic agree/upvote!
In real life, there is no trolley problem. Because the folks at the top don’t give a shit about being ethical.
That’s kind of the point, the rich guy will sacrifice the people to get the money, and the rich people are the ones in control.
I mean if you’re in the USA many of you are pulling the lever everyday really. It’s just that y’all constantly choose not to run over the wealthy and the corrupt in exchange for peace, love, or whatever reason you may have. But the easy access to weaponry does mean you’re constantly pulling a lever.
The problem is the green guys have no issues running y’all over daily.
Green guys
What do ogres have to do with this now
Well you see, they’re like onions
Oh God. SHREK WAS TELLING US THERE IS NOTHING INSIDE OF HIM
I thought they were more of a brownish orange?
Browranges
Where are you from?
That one deserves a repost in leftymemes!
Them being red and blue is a nice touch
why is the rich man green
Google greenwashing
Somehow I don’t think choosing between money and lives is a problem for that guy in any way whatsoever. The fact that the money would probably be salvageable even if the trolley hit it makes it even worse.
Yeah but it would be all scattered around and stuff. Some horrible poor person might try to pick some of it up. We certainly wouldn’t want that.
A lot of capitalists regularly make that choice, and they choose money.
Be it warmonger sharks, heads of private militaries and military manufacturers, or, idk, Nestle executives.
Needs a punchline. That last panel is completely pointless and wastes a good setup imo.
The punchline is that the protagonist, in this desperate, confusing moment of panic, finds themselves in the company of a useless buffoon who, although in the same terrifying position, is only capable of “helping” by cheerfully explaining the obvious. An experience we can all relate to on some level, especially if the comic as a whole is read as a metaphor.
I think it’s pretty well done.
I agree, the only thing I would add is swap the two. That way the buffoon is technically in a worse position.
I think that’s a very generous read, and I just don’t see it. The first three panels are well done, but the last adds nothing. It’s like someone ending a Little Johnny joke with “and then the teacher sent him to the principal’s office” instead of with whatever dirty thing Johnny said that was supposed to be the actual punchline.
Well, I guess your read of it suggests the cartoonists didn’t really write this comic and just sort of made it up as they went, I suppose? Or got lazy?
I would argue the artist wrote several punchlines before eventually settling on this one, and for good reason. It’s subtle and, frankly, funny. It relies on character humor rather than a blunt pun or ham fisted political zinger while still making a point. It’s really well crafted, imo.
But I’m just some dumbass on the internet and this cartoonists could be huffing glue, I suppose, so who knows?
Lol, I never suggested anything about the author’s writing process and I certainly never even implied that I thought you were a dumbass, which I don’t. But now I’m not convinced you’re not the actual cartoonist, since you seem to have intimate knowledge of their creation process and their recreational habits. It’s not a “character study”—you would need characters for that—it’s a setup with no punchline, it’s half a joke. Actually, it’s worse, it’s a joke with a decent punchline, followed by a whole extra panel that just restates what the reader already learned in the previous panel with the actual punchline, making me feel like the author thinks I’m a dumbass.
I’m sorry, I didn’t mean to imply you were calling me a dumbass, I was calling myself that, I apologize.
I can assure you I am not the cartoonist. It seems like I am intimately familiar with the process because I am. You can look at my post history to see a few examples of comics actually created on the fly with no thought, writing, or pencils done ahead of time, just stream of consciousness and pens in a sketchbook. I can tell you, a lot of thought was put into the comic we are discussing because I’ve been through that grinder plenty of times myself.
You’re correct about that third panel housing what most people would consider the actual punchline, which is why the fourth is so interesting. I’m not familiar with this cartoonist, so it could be that they are just so stuck in a four panel writing pattern that they felt the need to fill that panel with something, anything, so they just slapped something in there, but it really reads to me as much more thought out and deliberate. I suppose I could, like, go look at more of their work, but, eeeeeeehhhhhhh…
I also disagree that it’s not a character study. When working with three or four panels, cartoonists have to set characters up quickly and efficiently and this comic does that extremely well. That red guy is consistent throughout every panel, as is the protagonist ,we know exactly who he is. To the point where in panel three, the speech balloon is not attributed to anybody, yet we know exactly who is speaking, which is harder to pull off than you might think.
Anyways, you got me blabbing and blabbing. I could talk this kind of shit all day, I take it pretty seriously, in case you hadn’t noticed.
Again, you could totally be right. Without looking at more of their work, it’s possible this artist is a hack fraud and I am talking up a total sloppy amateur. But just judging from this single piece of work, I suspect they’re probably pretty good.
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Sorry I didn’t read and respond to that wall of text, lol. All I’ll say is, If you need 6 paragraphs to explain why it’s a good joke, it’s not a good joke.
Okay. How strange. I thought we were having a conversation but I guess you’re just some dipshit.
Oh well. Good luck, dipshit.
I think it’s fine as it is. It’s trading funny for poignanncy
Except the last panel isn’t poignant either. Like I said, it’s useless. It would be just as poignant without it, and if they had actually written a punchline, it could have been funny too.
You have a point, the last panel adds nothing. But for most readers it doesn’t make it worse.
But it doesn’t make it better for anyone, and it does make it worse for the rest of us, so…
How about “Welcome to reality”
“Don’t worry! The money will trickle down!”
“fat bee”
I’ll be them some day!
“Don’t worry, I think he’s gonna pull it!”
Worse, you could be the train driver with no control panel
You are in a trolley problem. Everyone is wearing a hat. No one sees their own hat. There are 2 red and 2 blue hats and everyone knows this. The guy to your left is wearing a red hat and the guy to your right has a blue one. The guy at the lever is too far away for you to see if he wears a hat at all and it doesn’t really matter since they will no pull the lever no matter what.
What do you do?What can you do you stupid fuck? You’re tied to a train track.
Congrats! You solved the riddle!
I’ll try spinning. That’s a good move
I’ll take the rest on a gift certificate.
I’ve seen enough western movies to know that I’ll succeed in untying myself before the train gets to me.
Happy go lucky guy is fine - they expected it and are just rolling with the punches.:-)
In the USA, the leopard about to get his face eaten off would normally be colored red I believe… :-P
only thing wrong with this cartoon is the capitalist is touching a lever. those guys dont do such menial work
True, but the keys of power, the ownership, the control are in the hands of capitalists.
Do you have a pension fund? If so, you are providing force to the levers.
Sometimes I feel like it’s the new generation memes. Straight from the shelters, getting taste of real life out there and making memes. But then I already knew the world is hell when I was 13 yo.
Adult world was actually less cruel because everyone masks their primal insticts behind a facade of politeness and any violence is passive, systemic. Much easier to cope with in the short term but ultimately maybe more insidious. Money is violence.
The guy at the lever represents the oil execs and we all know they would rather kill people than sacrifice money.
and we all know they would rather kill people
Multitrack drifting
Finally! Sweet release…
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