theHRguy@lemmy.world to Today I Learned@lemmy.worldEnglish · 2 years agoTIL: The Phrase “Death To America” Didn’t exist Before the CIA Overthrew the Iranian Government for Nationalizing their Oil in 1953medium.comexternal-linkmessage-square47linkfedilinkarrow-up1424arrow-down124
arrow-up1400arrow-down1external-linkTIL: The Phrase “Death To America” Didn’t exist Before the CIA Overthrew the Iranian Government for Nationalizing their Oil in 1953medium.comtheHRguy@lemmy.world to Today I Learned@lemmy.worldEnglish · 2 years agomessage-square47linkfedilink
minus-square【J】【u】【s】【t】【Z】@lemmy.worldlinkfedilinkEnglisharrow-up6arrow-down18·2 years agoYou misread. They say fuck America, but they do mean death to America. That’s the translation.
minus-squarelivus@kbin.sociallinkfedilinkarrow-up15·2 years agoThat’s literally the opposite of what the person I was replying to said.
minus-square【J】【u】【s】【t】【Z】@lemmy.worldlinkfedilinkEnglisharrow-up1arrow-down9·2 years agoThat person is wrong.
minus-squarelivus@kbin.sociallinkfedilinkarrow-up5·2 years agoWell, I looked into it and found credible sources that support @AllNewTypeFace’s claim, so I’m going to believe them. https://languagelog.ldc.upenn.edu/nll/?p=31116 https://ijoc.org/index.php/ijoc/article/view/1558/929
minus-square【J】【u】【s】【t】【Z】@lemmy.worldlinkfedilinkEnglisharrow-up1arrow-down5·2 years agoRight I know that’s the translation. But they do mean they want America to be destroyed/gone/dead/whatever. And they are willing to kill Americans and attack American interests if they can.
minus-squarelivus@kbin.sociallinkfedilinkarrow-up5·2 years agoToo much of a leap. The idea that everyone who says down with a regime is willing to kill people over it, doesn’t really hold water for me.
You misread. They say fuck America, but they do mean death to America. That’s the translation.
That’s literally the opposite of what the person I was replying to said.
That person is wrong.
Well, I looked into it and found credible sources that support
@AllNewTypeFace’s claim, so I’m going to believe them.
https://languagelog.ldc.upenn.edu/nll/?p=31116
https://ijoc.org/index.php/ijoc/article/view/1558/929
Right I know that’s the translation. But they do mean they want America to be destroyed/gone/dead/whatever. And they are willing to kill Americans and attack American interests if they can.
Too much of a leap.
The idea that everyone who says down with a regime is willing to kill people over it, doesn’t really hold water for me.