Dunno. But fascism is what happens after it succeeds.
I’m leaning into the right of this meme more and more with every passing day
I’m in this image and I dont like it.
The dystopian cyberpunk future William Gibson tried to warn us about.
Spoiler: We’re already living in it.
“The future is already here, it’s just not evenly distributed.”
The sky the color of a TV tuned to a dead channel has never looked prettier though…
Fascism. It’s fascism.
Economic and social collapse dislocates a lot of people. It dislocates people who think they shouldn’t be dislocated, because they played by the rules. They go to church, they had a job, they’re patriotic to their best understanding of the word.
Then, in their minds, something must have changed. It might be the immigrants, or the Jews, or the gays, or weirdly drag queens for some reason this time around. Then someone comes along who validates them as victims and promises a return to their historical glory days.
The last paroxysm is the election or ascendency of a far right populist who elevates that narrative. They promise to restore national pride and return to traditional values, and to return the nation to its roots which had made it strong and put them on top.
It’s happened multiple times around the world, and there are a lot of books and articles on how and why it happens.
Fascism is a characteristic of capitalist economies - it cannot exist without capitalism.
So no.
Yeas, in the sense that fascism is borne in capitalism, but it’s also marks the end of capitalism and what comes after.
but it’s also marks the end of capitalism and what comes after.
No, it doesn’t. Fascism poses no threat to capitalism and never has - that’s the whole reason capitalists eagerly fund fascists into power. Some fascists might dislike capitalism - such as Franco, for instance - but that doesn’t mean fascism can exist without it in any way, shape or form.
Oh you got me wrong, of course fascism is created to serve capitalists, but after the fascist power grab, they don’t need to have the theatre of freedom™ and markets anymore.
A square is a rectangle but not all rectangles are squares.
Just say authoritarianism. Fascism has happened exactly once in modern history. Words have meaning and you don’t get to assign values to them because one helps your political motive better than the other.
Fascism has happened exactly once in modern history.
Are you putting the fascist regimes of Germany, Italy and Spain into one basket? Also the current regime in Russia?
Fascism has happened exactly once in modern history.
Blatantly false.
Fascism =/= Nazism =/= Francoism.
See:
a square is a rectangle but not all rectangles are squares.
Nazism isn’t fascism is quite the take. I can’t tell if you’re a troll or just a pedant who goes about being pedantic wrong.
Everything fascist supports says is a lie to forward fascism.
If there isn’t a large Socialist coalition to combat fascism, then fascism will rise before collapsing even harder. If there is a large Socialist coalition, and that coalition successfully combats the fascist powers, then some form of Socialism will likely replace it, and humanity can continue progressing instead of regressing.
It doesn’t fail. It succeeds horribly.
It also fails, though. It’s unsustainable, Capitalists sew the seeds of their own downfall. They just hope they enjoy the ride and pass the buck off to someone else.
After capitalism,
- All firms should be democratic worker coops. The legal system would recognize the inalienable right to workers’ control.
- Land and natural resources should be collectively owned with revenue from private use of this collective property going out as a UBI. The atmosphere is included and any carbon fees are included.
- Pools of collectivized capital democratically controlled by workers in member worker coops. Each worker coop leases all its capital from the pool
That would be nice. It’s probably going to be war though.
Reading the comments here reminds me of that Slavoj Žižek/ Fredric Jameson quote:
It’s easier to imagine the end of the world than the end of capitalism.
The Soviet Union had race tracks and casinos.
People are always going to want something for nothing.
Why it’s so hard to imagine life after capitalism…
I remember reading a Guardian article in which it discussed the requirements of any market to either evolve or die based on the circumstances it finds itself in.
It highlighted that because Communism could not adapt quickly enough to its circumstances that it failed - the centrally governing authority were not able to efficiently or effectively govern the market at the time. Leading to multiple issues.
I would like to see the evolution of Capitalism. That we do not view everything only through an economic lens- there needs to be environmental, societal and political factors which must also be taken into account.
That and personal accountability and responsibility for business practices. For example you can pollute that waterway but we will take all your profits and you go to jail for 30years
Capitalism evolves into either Socialism or fascism, so we should push for Socialism.
I think this is the ideal. Capitalism is reigned in and regulated, consumers are encouraged to buy more expensive products in exchange for better conditions for the associated workers and the planet, labor unions surge, and billionaires are taxed out of existence.
techno feudalism
Post scarcity anarchism. I suggest you read Walkaway by Cory Doctorow. It made me into a (re)believer.
Feel free to pirate the book. Mr. Doctorow doesn’t mind. He walks the walk.
Neo-feudalism, then the thinning of the herd once high levels of automation are achieved.
Population decreases are already happening in modernized, wealthy countries, no need to do anything there. The poorer ones will end up starving as the climate collapses, so that’s basically taken care of too. Population collapse isn’t always good, though, somebody has to buy the goods and services.
With the way things are going, a return to out and out fascism.
It already has failed. This is what comes after.
This is what comes after.
Jean memes I presume
We’re just going to revisit all the classics. Company towns, fuedalism, etc. The wasted potential is just sickening.
