Spambots are abusing this fact

.ml admins fix pls

  • LalSalaamComrade@lemmy.mlEnglish
    381·
    9 months ago

    The spammers are taking advantage of open fediverse instances - and it’s not one, but instances chosen at random. You may think that banning instances would solve it, but it will block other legit users.

    • m-p{3}@lemmy.ca
      81·
      9 months ago

      Some of the automod bots are also filtering and blocking posts based on the content as well (RegEx, confidence rating based on the age of the account and upvote/downvote ratio, presence of rarely seen domains in URLs), so that helps a bit.

      • MrKaplan@lemmy.worldEnglish
        5·
        9 months ago

        Most of these are unfortunately limited to local instance moderation, which means all instances that don’t run these bots don’t benefit from them.

        The posts have already been modified in ways that they aren’t as easy to reliably filter anymore, though still possible with fairly low false positive rate.

        To add to this, depending on how content is removed, removal may or may not federate properly. on Lemmy.World, we’ve been removing content in a way that reliably federates, so while a lot of this spam does arrive in !asklemmy@lemmy.world and !selfhosted@lemmy.world, the removals on Lemmy.World should federate to all other instances (0.18.5+).

        The other portion of the spam is mostly on Lemmy.ml, in !asklemmy@lemmy.ml and !opensource@lemmy.ml, and not all of their removals have been done in a way that federates.

    • King@lemy.lol
      2·
      9 months ago

      Lemmy cannot solve the spam issue sadly, this not something the devlopers who built it think about.

      Even if mods blocked every instance that has spam, as more instances become avaliable, it would be easy to spam or troll lemmy.

  • comradegreetingcard@lemmy.ml
    351·
    9 months ago

    It’s weird… I haven’t seen a single spam post here. Only posts about the spam posts. I don’t think I have any filtering on my end. Not that I’m complaining, but why don’t I see them?

    • poVoq@slrpnk.net
      28·
      9 months ago

      Because your instance admins bulk deleted the posts directly in the database, which doesn’t federate to other instances.

      Quick and dirty fix because Lemmy is currently ill equipped to delete mass spam originating from many different accounts, but it means people from other instances still see all the spam and the lemmy.ml based moderators can’t do much because it’s already gone on their side.

      • Dessalines@lemmy.ml
        21·
        9 months ago

        There’s a few open issues on lemmy for this (federating deletes when banning non-local users), when I get some time I’ll work on them.

    • SomeBoyo@feddit.de
      4·
      9 months ago

      The spam I noticed was yesterday, might have been removed by the time you came online, since they where identical and likely easy for your admins to filter out.

    • Auzy@beehaw.org
      83·
      9 months ago

      To be honest, I’d hate to see the same thing happen here as Reddit.

      On Reddit, the problem is there are a small number of people who are modding a huge number of communities

      And not sure if that’s a good thing

      • makeasnek@lemmy.mlEnglish
        12·
        9 months ago

        That’s not a problem specific to reddit. It happens because only a small portion of people step up to moderate. You’ll see the same dynamic play out in all leadership roles whether you’re talking about reddit, your local government, volunteer organizations, open source projects, etc.

        You can be part of the solution if you step up to be a mod.

        • Auzy@beehaw.org
          11·
          9 months ago

          Some of those Mods on reddits Moderate dozens of subs though.

          I think if they simply ask for mods though, they’d get some… I’d be happy to mod, but, there might be better candidates

      • PenguinCoder@beehaw.orgEnglish
        41·
        9 months ago

        Not sure if that’s a good thing.

        It’s not. Power hungry individuals only want more power, not the responsibility the signed up for.