Immigrants and trans people are just collateral damage to you

You’re literally justifying Palestinians as collateral damage. You don’t have the moral high ground here. You’re perfectly willing to sacrifice the lives of others.

Here. Take a look. I dare you. https://archivegenocide.com/

Depends on what kind of voters they are.

If they stay home during the Democratic primaries they should show up to Democratic primaries to vote for a candidate who doesn’t block strikes and doesn’t support genocide.

If they show up to Democratic primaries and vote for a candidate who doesn’t block strikes and doesn’t support genocide they should keep doing that.

If they show up to the Democratic primaries and vote for candidates who block strikes and support genocide they should stop doing that and instead vote for a candidate who doesn’t block strikes and doesn’t support genocide.

Tell me, do you plan on showing up to the Democratic primaries to vote for a candidate who doesn’t block strikes and doesn’t support genocide?

No, I saw you ask why RamenJunkie would believe that progressives are single issue voters

Then your reading comprehension is trash. I asked him how he knows we “will never be happy anyway”.

My whole comment is 11 words and you couldn’t bother to read it correctly.

They might

Since you just repeated yourself I’m just going to repeat myself.

They won’t. You know they won’t. Stop trying to pretend like you think otherwise. Nobody is buying it.

Trump was convicted of 34 felonies and we depended on Democrats to make sure he was sentenced. They did not.

Shit like this bud.

The left may, in fact, be unable to organize due to internal differences.

I already called you out for it.

You’re speaking as if there’s equal blame here. There isn’t. Liberals have treated leftists like second class voters for decades rather than making real concessions. They’re calling all the shots and that means they own all the responsibility.

You’re trying your best to deflect away from this. And I can only assume it’s because you want people to keep showing up to the Democratic primaries to vote for strike blocking, genocide supporting trash like Clinton, Biden, Harris and Schumer.

If that isn’t your intention then let me see you say it: “Registered Democratic voters need to stop showing up to Democratic primaries and voting for strike blocking, genocide supporting trash like Clinton, Biden, Harris and Schumer.”

“Loyalty” to a party is not a good thing, for one.

That’s pretty rich coming from someone arguing we are morally obligated to vote for Democratic politicians. You can’t get any more loyal than that.

If I preferred MAGA to far-left politics I wouldn’t be looking for ways to aid the resistance at all.

On the contrary, if you prefer MAGA the best way you can help them is spend all day deflecting responsibility away from liberals and their failures. Thereby allowing liberal voters to show up to future Democratic primaries to vote for more pro-corporate trash guilt free.

depend on them to make sweeping reforms of elections and the US Supreme Court,

They won’t. You know they won’t. Stop trying to pretend like you think otherwise. Nobody is buying it.

Trump was convicted of 34 felonies and we depended on Democrats to make sure he was sentenced. They did not.

That’s not what I was calling out as odd. Let me demonstrate what’s odd.

Demonstrate to me you are able to say: “I am furious with Joe Biden for blocking the rail strike.”

I do not refute that some of the Democratic organizations are captured by corporate interests, but the Republicans are even more captured, and pose a dire threat to the meager democratic features of the US political system.

And you’ve decided the best way you can contribute to the situation is tell Leftists the same thing they’ve been hearing for 40+ years? That strategy is no longer effective. It has lost to Donald Trump twice now. When do you finally decide to appeal to Liberal voters and tell them it’s time to make real concessions with Leftists in the Democratic primaries if they want to win elections?

Maybe you’re an accelerationist?

Maybe you prefer MAGA to Leftists.

Help me understand your comment. Are you suggesting if we voiced disagreement with more than one issue with Democratic politicians then the claim that we “will never be happy anyway” would be unfounded?

As it is, I tire of listening to people complain about lack of representation when they choose not to vote for a viable candidate in the general when they had the opportunity to do so because they didn’t line up 100%.

But as we’ve already established, we did vote for a viable candidate in the 2020 general election. Do you think we lined up with Biden 100% back in 2020? It really seems like you’re the one missing the blindingly obvious answer.

I’m not following you. First you said we have to show up in numbers and I told you we do show up in numbers in the primary. Then you said we have to show up in the general election and I pointed out we did. Now you’re saying that’s not good enough. Either you’re moving goalposts or you’re doing a shit job of explaining yourself.

Spell it out for me plainly. Tell me exactly what we would have had to do since 2008 in order to be represented.

You don’t show up in the general

That would mean Biden won the 2020 general election without us.

That’s because you have to show up and show up in numbers.

We do though. We were roughly a third of the voters in the 2020 Democratic primaries and that number has probably gone up.

The competition is back in power because Joe Biden sabotaged his own chances at re-election by making voters he was depending on furious with him.

You asked me a question and I answered. I don’t know what else to tell you.

Because you will never be happy anyway.

How do you know?

It’s funny how well liberals like yourself understand the electoral college in this context. But then if I say a non-voter in a deep blue state didn’t have any bearing on Trump getting elected and suddenly the principle matters.

I do tell people to vote. In the primaries.

But when the Democratic primaries produce a trash candidate I don’t bother to tell people to vote in the general election.