In a strange shift, Russia’s Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov was quoted as saying that Israel’s war on Gaza is identical to Moscow’s military operation against Ukraine.

The comments, attributed to Russia’s top diplomat, were cited by Russia Today in an interview on Thursday with RIA Novosti.

“The goals declared by Israel for its ongoing operation against Hamas militants in Gaza seem nearly identical to those put forward by Moscow in its campaign against the Ukrainian government,” RT quoted Lavrov as saying.

According to the Palestinian Ministry of Health, 21,320 Palestinians have been killed, and 55,603 wounded in Israel’s ongoing genocide in Gaza starting on October 7.

Palestinian and international estimates say that the majority of those killed and wounded are women and children.

Many international law experts have accused Israel of carrying out a genocide in the besieged Gaza Strip.

read more: https://www.palestinechronicle.com/objectives-of-israels-and-russias-war-nearly-identical-did-lavrov-shift-position-on-gaza/

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      Yeah because Ukraine has a real army. And air defenses, those are also important. Russia isn’t not evil, they’re failing at being evil.

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        I feel this really downplays the American-backed atrocities happening in Palestine.

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          Of course it does; that’s the reason westerners call everything their enemies do “genocide”. To downplay their own atrocities.

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            While not exactly the same, the Israeli and Russian treatment of the territory they occupied in their respective wars are similar in their complete and utter apathy for civilians.

            No, not really. Israel has been actively trying to genocide Palestine, while Russia hasn’t been doing anything worse than what the West does when it invades countries, which is called “collateral damage” when they do it.

            albeit with completely different amounts because again, Ukraine has a real army).

            A huge amount of Ukraine is entirely under Russian control, and yet, no genocide.

            Put another way, if Ukraine had been systematically robbed of and denied the means to defend themselves like Gaza was, it’d also be in a similar situation.

            A baseless speculation that you can’t back up. Although the fact that the massive parts of Ukraine that are under Russian control, including Crimea, don’t look anything like Gaza, is strong evidence against you.

            The critical difference here is that Ukraine is in a much better position to resist, not that Russia isn’t attempting genocide. Basically Russia is looking at Israel and saying “I wish this was me”, not “I’m better than that”.

            No. You can’t just make baseless accusations of ‘they totally would commit genocide!’ otherwise I’m going to claim the only thing stopping you from slitting the throat of every baby in Moscow is the fact that you physically can’t.

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        My bad, I forgot that, to Westerners, the word genocide just means “warcrimes when someone I don’t like does them”, so that they can always say they’re better than their enemies: “sure we do eat crimes, but they do genocide!”

        Russia hasn’t done anything in Ukraine that the West didn’t do in Iraq, but nobody calls that genocide.

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          I don’t think children have been stolen yet, but maybe you have sources about it?

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          Yes, because Russia is failing. Don’t get me wrong, I hate the West as much as you do, but the things Russia is doing in their occupied territories in Ukraine are only not currently genocide because they’re failing. Put another way, if Russia could they’d do to Ukraine what the IDF is doing to Gaza.

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            See what I mean? You would never make absurd accusations of “counter factual” genocide if it was a Western country. But you need Russian warcrimes to be different from Western ones for your ideology of “the West is bad, but still better than everyone else” to work.

            If that wasn’t the case, it would be more than enough to condemn Russia for a war of aggression, it’s a serious warcrime, one of the most serious in international law. But of course, westerners don’t think it’s serious at all, and do it all the time, so they need something else to accuse their enemies of. Hence this “counterfactual genocide”

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                You are failing to comprehend what is being said. There is no genocide being committed by Russia. The hypothesis that Russia would be committing genocide if it could is completely wild speculation without evidence. It is a bald faced assertion that Russia is evil, without even a hint of self awareness.

                There is no evidence for this claim. There is no basis for this claim. The claim’s purpose is to establish that, even in the face of evidence to the contrary, Russia is at least as bad as Israel or the USA. The evidence demonstrates that this is not true, but the Westoid brain worms cannot consume this, so morons make up fanfic and present it as reality which their brain worms can feed on. It’s pure delusion to say Russia would be actively committing genocide if it had the means.