I love that the American people think Biden can wave his hand and there will be a ceasefire. That is about as far from truth as you can get.
He definitely has at least the means of applying pressure.
Completely freeze military cooperation and weapon deliveries and withdraw the Carriers they send would be possible after talks failed.
But that is not something that makes sense when you want to keep your military base in the middle east functional and regarding the vast amounts of religious people in the US it would put off parts of potential voters next year.
I think the whole aspiration of a ceasefire is just political talk so the US can say they tried their best, in the end they will support Israel in their more than questionable response to Hamas despicable provocation.
He definitely has at least the means of applying pressure.
How do you know he isn’t? These things don’t necessarily happen in open view.
Completely freeze military cooperation and weapon deliveries and withdraw the Carriers they send would be possible after talks failed.
That’s up to Congress. Unless you want it legal for the President to ask for a favor again.
Edit to add: I especially like the Carrier part. The only thing stopping this from becoming a regional war are those battle groups. You seem to think that inviting Iran to the table would be a good thing.
He absolutely can do that. If Biden said the bombings need to stop or arms transfers and aid to Isreal will be cut off, they would stop. They’d put up a major stink and spout all sorts of vitriol, but they would stop.
Again, Congress writes the legislation and the President executes them. Are we so far away from the first impeachment of Trump that people forget how it works?
The embargo on Cuba was done by executive order. It could be done.
Biden can also veto any bill for any reason. “No funding for Israel until there’s a ceasefire”
Oh let’s change subjects, how clever. Funding bills come from congress, not executive orders.
Yes he can actually, or at least he can stop Israeli bombings. There’s precedent for it.
Name the precedent
Reagan in the siege of Beirut. He literally stopped the bombing of Western Beirut with a phone call.
Reagan had major KIA in the Beirut barracks bombing and retreated out of the country.
How is that relevant? Especially considering Reagan stopped the shelling of Beirut in 1982 and the Beirut barracks bombing happened in 1983?
He helped things down this path by disallowing certain talking points. Whether it contributed, or to what degree it contributed… He helped break things.
Now people want to see him fix what he helped break.
He miscalculated in an important way and unless he has a few aces up his sleeve, American democracy may be at stake.
We need Dark Brandon, not what we’re seeing right now.
Yeah, it was Biden who raped and killed on 10/07. Take that silly shit somewhere else.
You missed my point, provided a strawman and acted rude/glib to a number of people.
What’s up? You okay?
Your point is opaque. You seem to think that the lack of argumentative voices in administrations somehow limits the ability for a President to force other country’s to do their bidd8ng. Of course, there is no logic to this.
Bruh, he could slip while taking the stairs and there will be a ceasefire. If he intentionally waved his hand he could end the occupation.
Maybe you’re betting that this is beyond the president (as it has always been in the US), and that may be true. But if you think that the occupation government can stand by itself without US intervention and aid for every second, then no, that is just not true.
So to be clear the choice is we tell our ally that they either change their domestic policy or we severe all economic and diplomatic relations?
That’s how you think things work?
Nope, I thought @Rapidcreek meant that even if the US stops supporting the occupation it would survive, but it turns out he actually meant Biden, as in only Biden being against the occupation.
But if you think that the occupation government can stand by itself without US intervention and aid for every second, then no, that is just not true.
Congress writes legislation not the President. Nice try, if several others didn’t try the same argument before you.
Yes, I already mentioned that:
Maybe you’re betting that this is beyond the president (as it has always been in the US)
Still, the president pushing against the occupation would be far from futile.
Still, the president pushing against the occupation would be far from futile.
If I was an IDF General and you told me to ceasefire. I’d first ask you for what. After you told me nothing, I’d tell you to piss off. They have conditioned the battlefield, split Gaza in two and engaging Hamas directly and you want them to withdraw 100k troops and give Hamas time to regroup.
First of all you’re taking the word of the IDF for what’s going on in the invasion, which Is great, they’ve shown their reliability time and time again.
Anyways, as the president of the US you don’t talk to an IDF “general” who probably doesn’t have control over his own ass. If you want to do any kind of talking you direct it to the big clown.
If that doesn’t work start by pulling your troops from there, then start pulling the dandy stuff you’ve been sending as intimidation, and let things flow for a while.
First of all you’re taking the word of the IDF for what’s going on in the invasion,
There are many embedded journalists.
Anyways, as the president of the US you don’t talk to an IDF “general” who probably doesn’t have control over his own ass.
No you don’t, but that would be the reaction he would get for the guy who has half a million troops in the field.
If that doesn’t work start by pulling your troops from there, then start pulling the dandy stuff you’ve been sending as intimidation, and let things flow for a while
You have no idea what you are talking about.
The self proclaimed Zionist Biden wont do shit about it. That $11m a day keeps flowing.
That facist Netanyahu wants Biden out and Trump in. In addition to evidence suggesting possible covert aid given by Israel to the Trump campaign in 2016, Trump even officially endorsed Netanyahu’s own presidential run helping to secure his victory over the Israeli left. In addition to moving the US embassy to Jerusalem to the delight of Netanyahu and over the objections of Palestinians, he recognized Israeli settlements as legal, reversing decades of US policy that these settlements were illegal under international law.
I’m not saying don’t push Biden and democrats to be better on Israeli policy and do what they can to rein Isreal in, which is a difficult dance to do considering how fervently pro Israel most Americans are, but don’t forget how much lower US policy can sink.
https://www.timesofisrael.com/donald-trump-endorses-netanyahu-for-pm/
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What Trump did or Biden is doing, what Trump recognizes or Biden doesn’t is all irrelevant, nothing has changed in regards to Israel and what they are doing. Biden proudly proclaimed himself to be a Zionist, so he proudly proclaims support for the treatment of Palestinians and their genocide. The WH saying there is no red line for Israel makes Biden complicit in everything Netanyahu is doing.
I would argue that Trump’s four years of increasingly lenient policies on Israel emboldened them to continue and intensify their policies. Maybe without Trump’s interference in the Israeli election, the Israeli left in alliance with Arab Israeli citizens would have returned to power and be able to restart a peace process. No pressure at all from America is certainly a worse situation than not enough pressure, democrats will be much easier to push into opposing Israel, and there’s many pro Palestinian and anti Israeli apartheid state democrats already.
Please find me the statement where Biden proclaims his support for Palestinian genocide, that is quite the logical leap. I see a lot on American frustration that Israel is not allowing aid through, not allowing time for hostage rescue, and America pushing back on the Israeli plans to immediately rush in to the Gaza strip with a full invasion and no end in sight.
You can say things like, “Biden should be doing even more to rein in Israel” without saying things that are untrue like Biden supports the genocide of all Palestinians. I certainly want the Biden administration to be doing even more. If you use too much hyperbole though, you may inadvertently help empower the people who do actually want genocide and make no qualms about it. With the Israeli far right facist government doing everything they can to undermine Democrats like Biden, while constantly pushing for Republicans to return to power, that should tell you that Biden does not fully support what Israel is doing from the Israeli government view. And don’t forget to keep watching who the Israeli government does want in power, Republicans, who today are introducing bills to expel all Palestinians from the United States and other racist facist nonsense.
A Zionist in my heart The Zionist goal has always been to eradicate Palestinians, and now Armenians. Zionists support apartheid and oppression. Biden is a Zionist at heart, therefore supports the treatment of Palestinians. And he’s conflating antizionism protests with antisemitism.
This is where you have to be careful with how people view the words they’re using versus how you or others might view them. I don’t think Biden would say that describing himself as “a zionist” means he’s in favor of a Palestinian genocide. But there are people who use that word that way, especially Israeli far right extremists, so it’s a word I think he really should have stayed away from using. Another example that might help you see what I mean is looking at Rashida Tlaib (pro-palestinian democrat) who is catching flack for her “from the river to the sea” comment. Now she prefers a one state solution with equal rights for all (Biden and mainline democratic position is a two state solution, which I personally think is more feasible as well since both Palestinians and Israelis seemed determined to have theocratic aspects to their government which could never really be compatible). I don’t believe for a second that she thinks that comment means she supports the killing or removal of all Jewish people in Israel, but there are people like Hamas who absolutely use the phrase that way, so it probably wasn’t the wisest way to describe her position. Biden not known for careful word choice unfortunately, which is really needed in a situation like this.
If Biden and democrats were some genocidal maniacs on par with Netanhayu, why does the Israeli far right and Netanhayu constantly work to undermine Biden and democrats and support republicans and Trump? I’m not saying Biden is at the exact place policy wise you or I would probably prefer, but conflating very different positions isn’t helpful and might undermine your goals.
