I am tempted to start using the @Vivaldi browser but then I looked* at the diversity in the underlying technology and I think it is better to promote and start using @firefox :firefox: more.

Or should we leave it to #Google :omya_google: and #Apple :apple_inc: only❓

I’m curious 😅 @Vivaldi why not use SpiderMonkey and Gecko❓

*Table was created with the help of #Bard

#OpenSource #browser #w3c #codinglife

  • ilinamorato@lemmy.world
    311·
    1 year ago

    Firefox + uBlock Origin is the only thing that makes mobile browsing tolerable. Ads are so bad, and web design so poor, that even if you’re someone who is usually ok with advertising you’ll often find that sites are literally broken if you allow them to render.

    • Kyiro@lemm.ee
      15·
      1 year ago

      You can use Cromite (Bromite fork) or Kiwi Browser as well if you’re on Android

      • ilinamorato@lemmy.world
        4·
        1 year ago

        I believe those are both Chromium, right? I’m suspicious that when manifest v2 support ends in Chromium it will kill ad blockers across the Chromium market.

        • Kyiro@lemm.ee
          11·
          1 year ago

          Cromite uses some built-in adblocker based off ABP and doesn’t have extensions

        • TheAnonymouseJoker@lemmy.ml
          15·
          1 year ago

          I doubt specific type of extensions will be killed in Chromium. Even uBlock Origin exists as a Lite version with no possibility of configuration, but allows proper adblocking.

          Western corporations are testing how far they can get away with advertising, spying and other dirty things, and there is going to be very soon, probably in the next 5ish years, when we see a breaking point for masses globally.

  • voxel@sopuli.xyz
    191·
    1 year ago

    Safari isn’t open source but there’s Gnome Web.
    It’s built on the open source WebKit engine.
    also yeah you made a mistake there. webkit is in fact foss.

  • Chewy@discuss.tchncs.de
    101·
    1 year ago

    Google Chrome, Opera, Microsoft Edge and Vivaldi are not open source. Chromium is open source but all those browsers add additional proprietary functionality on top.

    Edit: I read the table wrong. The open source columns seem to be about their left column. Still, I find the table to be misleading. Especially since almost all browsers use an open source engine, except Safari. Imo it’s more important whether the actual browser is open source. Which boils down to Firefox and Tor and Brave as far as I know.

      • Chewy@discuss.tchncs.de
        2·
        1 year ago

        The term open source includes the right to modify and distribute source code. Only being able to audit code is called source available.

        https://opensource.org/osd/

        Yes, Vivaldi is certainly not as closed as Chrome and is privacy respecting while Edge is the opposite. But if we’re strictly talking about open source they aren’t there. If they’d change the license to an open source one I’d probably given it a go a few years ago. Only being source available stopped me.

  • Vilian@lemmy.ca
    91·
    1 year ago

    were opera is open source lmao

    most of that list is not opensource, only firefox, everything has just chromium as opensource, what don’t change anything because the company can put the same crappy on top of chromium

    • JulyTheMonth@lemmy.ml
      41·
      1 year ago

      I mean the list never said that the browser is opensource. The opensource column is for the respective technology to the left of it. So it describes if the js and browser engines are opensource.

  • sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works
    5·
    1 year ago

    I used to use Opera back when they had their own JavaScript and rendering engine, then bailed and switched back to Firefox when they became a chromium clone.

  • Tau@sopuli.xyz
    41·
    1 year ago

    You can use Floorp, which is a soft fork of Firefox with Vivaldi features

  • southsamurai@sh.itjust.works
    41·
    1 year ago

    That’s a weird chart in the thumbnail.

    Almost all of the common chromium based browsers, but only mainline firefox.

    Anyway, it’s definitely a good thing to use more than just the chrome based browsers for the exact reason you said.

    However, vivaldi is a decent choice for when you need to. Yeah, their ui isn’t open source, but it really doesn’t matter in real world use. The only other option for me is ungoogled chromium, and cromite on android.

    On android, my main browser is mull, with Iibrewolf on PC. I can’t say any non chromium browsers are perfect on android, but mull is plenty fast and does everything you want it to do, and doesn’t do what you don’t want.

    • 30p87@feddit.de
      4·
      1 year ago

      Probably because chromium based browsers are often marketed as completely separate ones. Browsers based on it want to make the impression that they are a unique browser with outstanding functionality etc.
      Edge? It’s Edge, OUR BROWSER, YOU DON’T NEED ANYTHING ELSE.
      Vivaldi? It’s Vivaldi, “we built the best browser with most features blabla”.
      Opera? It’s Opera, “better, faster and more secure than a default browser”.
      In contrast, librewolf.net’s first sentence is literally “A custom version of Firefox…”. Mullvad also says it’s a collaboration with Tor, and a paragraph down they explicitly say it’s Tor, and therefore FF, based.
      Many users, me included, don’t see Librewolf or Tor as separate browsers, because the former is basically just a preconfigured FF, and the latter adds an access point to the Tor network and removes some privacy/security harming features (eg. Sync). The Browser, its features, design and features, stay the same.

  • Grass@sh.itjust.works
    21·
    1 year ago

    Does Firefox on Android still have whatever supposed flaw the graphene os team said it has? Their own chromium based browser is very lacking in the UX department. Very thumb crampy button layout. They also recommended bromite which is dead. There is cromite which is a fork but it largely has the same issues. I use Firefox on PC, and literally everything else is entirely untrustworthy. The goog has created a pretty lousy situation for the internet where everyone proudly simps for their favourite shitty chrome clones that take advantage of their users.