• lurkerlady [she/her]@hexbear.net
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        21 days ago

        id like to remind everyone that ukraine only has half of its 1991 population. paraguay once had to deal with a genocidal war (war of the triple alliance) that killed nearly 70-90% of its population. neither have yet to end up communist.

        the conditions for communism surfacing seem to be very specific trans-sad

        • TreadOnMe [none/use name]@hexbear.net
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          21 days ago

          It took a literal world war with hundreds of millions dying to establish the first successful state-wide communist revolution, with mass global impoverishment, at a time when most migration, even for the wealthy, was done by train.

          The conditions that are fundamentally missing is that all of these areas are fundamentally isolated, so if one has the means to revolt, it is easier to use those means to hop on a flight and leave. The issue is mostly that there is still too much global surplus that can be dealt out.

          Ultimately we are in a position where there is a global international bourgeois that, through its various connections, pretty much runs everything that is important (water purification, fuel refining, finance, major agricultural products, entertainment, etc.) and a working class that is barely even conscious of itself. It will take some major disruption, or likely a series of major disruptions, thst weakens the grasp of those in power. The issue still, of course, being that that global international bourgeois loves a good crisis, if it can organize around it and profit from it.

        • BuhbyeLittleGumshoe [he/him]@hexbear.net
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          21 days ago

          A: There must be suffering for change to happen

          B: Most people past to present have lived in misery. Yet they did not or could not immediately reshape the world.

          Synthesis: Change requires a fracturing in the status quo plus the motivation by progressive elements to take its place.

        • InexplicableLunchFiend [he/him]@hexbear.net
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          Necessary conditions but not sufficient. Ukraine specifically was experiencing the collapse of communism and the take-over by rightwing capitalists during the period with the most atrocious conditions, which is just about the worst possible situation for a communist party. Can’t speak for Paraguay though as I’m not educated sufficiently in that war.