IDF rules:
OK things to do:
- Kill children,
- Rape women,
- Kill prisoners,
- Destroy peoples property,
- Use iPhone.
Not OK things to do:
- Use Android OS
Androids are obviously Hamas
If ever anyone still doesn’t get how Western countries still support Israel despite the populations of those countries widely hating Israel, this shit is why.
They have blackmail on all our politicians, but moreover they can sell their domestic surveillance spy tools (such as malware) to bad actors (such as the US gov) to spy on their own citizens too.
Israel is the #1 perpetrator and exporter of fascism and police states.
I thought Apple doesn’t let the bad guys … oh wait, that’s just in Movies and TV shows.
It’s also just not true, the villain/killer/etc has iPhones in many shows and movies already, including multiple AppleTV shows.
The Israeli military has decided to ban Android phones for senior officers
“Under the expected order, commanders from the rank of lieutenant colonel and above will be permitted to use only iPhones for official communications. The step is aimed at reducing the risk of intrusions on senior officers’ handsets, according to the report.”
So it seems that Israel (one of the leading country in hackers spies for hire) thinks that there’s a lot « Hezbollah honey pot » that target android device
Israeli company Cellebrite sells a device to extract data from locked phones, both Android and iPhones afaik. So indeed I’m guessing their government knows some stuff about the security of both platforms.
Fun fact: comments mentioning Cellebrite get immediately shadow-hidden on Reddit, or at least in some of the main subs.
In 2021, Moxie Marlinspike, creator of the encrypted messaging app Signal, pointed to several vulnerabilities in Cellebrite’s UFED and Physical Analyzer software that allowed for arbitrary code execution on Windows computers running the software. One exploit he detailed involved the UFED scanning a specially formatted file, which could then be used to execute arbitrary code on the computer running the UFED. Marlinspike wrote that the code could then “[modify] not just the Cellebrite report being created in that scan, but also “all previous and future generated Cellebrite reports” from all previously scanned devices and all future scanned devices in any arbitrary way.”[27] Marlinspike also found that Cellebrite software was bundled with out-of-date FFmpeg DLL files from 2012, which lacked over 100 subsequent security updates. Windows Installer packages, extracted from the Windows installer for iTunes and signed by Apple, were also found, which he said raised legal concerns.[28] Cellebrite responded that the company “is committed to protecting the integrity of our customers’ data, and we continually audit and update our software in order to equip our customers with the best digital intelligence solutions available.”[29] The report by Signal followed an announcement by Cellebrite in 2020 that it had developed technology to crack encrypted messages in the Signal app, a claim the company later retracted and downplayed.[30][31] The announcement by Marlinspike raised questions about the integrity of data extracted by the software,[32][33] and prompted Cellebrite to patch some of the vulnerabilities found by Signal and to remove full support for analyzing iPhones.[34][35]
Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cellebrite
Sounds like it is just malware to me.
Vulnerable software is different from malware.
Iirc there was also the part of the story where the exploit for Cellebrite’s thing was included in Signal, and Marlinspike said that data on any device scanning Signal with Cellebrite software would be poisoned.
What I’m hearing is that even if you aren’t a Signal user, you might benefit from having Signal installed on your device?
frankly this is because israel knows exactly how much spyware they’ve gotten their partner, Google, to put into android. the iphone is also chock full of spyware, and they do want to spy on their military force to make sure it’s as ideologically and racially pure as they need it to be to continue their genocide. further consider that budget iphones don’t exist and you realize that their systemic impoverishing of the indigenous Palestinian people means that all of the targets of their genocide are much more likely to be android users than iphone users. given this, israel is in real time creating a new signifier of jewish-israeli identity. soon having an android phone as civilian will be evidence of HAMAS.
and again.
i want to remind everyone that google is a major partner to israel. this is not a case of iphones bad guys, android phones good guys. this is a case of both being components in a system of torture. i can’t tell you yet to divest yourself of both to switch to linux phones like postmarketos because even i can’t do that without buying a new device, but please watch that space. and until you can, if you’re using a google pixel please consider installing grapheneos, and if you’re not please consider using a de-googled lineage based rom. israel greatly values the intel they get from their partner google.
So they switched because they have control and access over both OSs?
they are enforcing the discontinuation of one because they got more spyware into it. they view this as a liability because it means there’s more backdoor holes in it and they don’t want that compromising their officer corps’ operational security. however, they also don’t want an entirely spyware free solution for their officers. their entire system of control is built from the ground up on surveillance and enforcing ideological purity. so they still want to spy on their officers. the iphone has the balance they’re looking for
The stuff you say about android checks out and makes sense but the iPhone part doesn’t.
pay particular attention to the invasive telemetry section. this isn’t by accident. ios promises to respect your privacy in its advertising, and does a better job than stock android, but the fact remains that the company is subservient to the states it partners with, one of which is the United States, which has close ties to israel. if your plan is to use your phone with whatever os it comes with, the iphone is more secure. but for a military force like the IDF, they can dictate and even issue whatever would be the most secure. the fact that they do not means these considerations are seen as a positive
What you’re describing isn’t spyware though.
I’m not dying on this hill because at a point it would just be quibbling over semantics. Your point isn’t wrong - I know there are options built into OSes that can be used to monitor user behaviour - but this isn’t spyware in the same way backdooring shit into android would be
No argument that the end result is pretty similar - but one requires exploits to get some shit on the phone. The other is innate to the OS.
Not worth the fight… people here will call even usage based telemetry (how many times did this feature get used) spyware.
It rarely is.
The Genius Bar are much more violent these days.
They don’t want people installing GrapheneOS on them.
But isn’t that stupid tho. Like they should want their military officers to be using the most secure OS.
But then again, its funny to see them make stupid decisions.
That’s only true if they trust them. If the goal is to ensure they can keep track of dissidents then no.
It’s a both-ways situation.
They allow only the Fisher-Price version of phones so less-than-power-users don’t do something stupid.
They also allow only Fisher-Price so power users can’t beat Celebrite as easily.
Guess we now know what the “i” stands for.
So Android phones are anti-Semitic now?
I said it before and I’ll say it again, among all tech companies, Apple is the closest to the nazi mindset.
Google has decided you cannot turn off Gemini in their newer versions of Android. You cannot install other roms that do either, Google is killing those too. But yea, Apple is the bad guy. Ignore the Google rug pull.
What roms does Apple let you install on iPhones?
Both are the bad guys, not either.
Bullshit. I have it turned off on my pixel 9pro and Samsung s24 plus
I mean it’s not just that. Probably not even mostly that. Security is really not great on Android far beyond the AI. I’ve been running Android for years and probably won’t change until Linux with LUKS is a reasonable alternative, But from a hardware level on through to the software, there are so many holes in the OS and ways to access privileged information. Even the top end of the Samsung line is largely rootable at this point, not without concessions, mind you, but as far as an enemy getting a phone and gaining access, or the company itself getting your data even without AI, I’d probably be concerned enough for ANY military org not to allow them to be used.
Apple has a hell of a lot of issues, might even be overly friendly with Israel, but from a security standpoint, it’s probably safer for secrets than android at the moment.
I really just want an encrypted portable linux device with a cellular modem. I don’t even care if it can SMS or VOLTE, I just need it to run a secure chat client, support Bluetooth headphones and last all day on a charge.
I really just want an encrypted portable linux device with a cellular modem. I don’t even care if it can SMS or VOLTE, I just need it to run a secure chat client, support Bluetooth headphones and last all day on a charge.
Then you’re in luck, because that’s something you can already have by now! Just get yourself one of the more recent-ish phones that are well supported by PostmarketOS. The things Linux phones struggle the most with these days, are the more traditional phone-things, such as text messages or calling, which may not be ready for production, as they say (although, both texts and calls have actually worked well for me as of late). But if all you want is a pocket Linux computer/PDA, and intend to carry another phone for calls and texting, that’s something you can have, for the grand price of an old, second-hand phone. I’ve been loving my (LUKS-encrypted) OnePlus 6T, and I do actually use it for calls and texts as well!
When Linux phone?
Pretty sure android is Linux, just really grown seperate
Doesn’t count. :P
FFS a government makes a policy on phone security which may or may not be a good decision. OK whatever, who cares?
Ah but that government is Israel. So now this is today’s reason for your daily Two Minutes Hate?
Get a grip people.
AppleThe Official Phone Of Genocide
Lets face it, the more you know about ol’ tyranty boy StevieJobs the more it makes sense.
says everything about iPhones ‘security’ & ‘privacy’
repeats it
