• Le_Wokisme [they/them, undecided]@hexbear.net
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    5 days ago

    i think i’m not understanding the tone of your last lines. i see “ukronazi” a lot, specific references to the leadership or the puppet regime, we even (when there was more of a difference) specified if it was azov or the regular military.

    • Blockocheese [any]@hexbear.net
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      Leftists on this site will have no issue with treating all Ukrainians as Nazis while making excuses for Jews despite both groups containing people who arent genocidal, both being exposed to genocidal propaganda their entire lives, and both having the agency to not commit war crimes

      • purpleworm [none/use name]@hexbear.net
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        I don’t think it’s right to treat all Ukrainians as Nazis even if Ukraine is overall a fascist state that worships a major perpetrator of the Holocaust as its patron saint. I don’t think Israelis live under the same levels of coercion as the Ukrainians who are forbidden from fleeing the country under much greater danger and beaten or held at gunpoint to be dragged to military facilities surrounded by mines to prevent escape, but regardless there is a minority of antizionist Israelis also.

        I tend not to bring up this latter point very often because it isn’t that practically important imo, but if we’re discussing the subject directly then it’s worth mentioning.

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          Yeah tbh if you are barred from leaving the country and are getting press ganged into the military all your choice has been robbed from you at that point

    • EatMoreMacroplastics [she/her]@hexbear.net
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      That’s one of the problems with irony, when you change what you’re being ironic about within a post, things get confusing fast, especially when you are ironic about both sides of a contradictory double standard.