Yeah, if as reported, that’s going to radically nudge the UK green party’s pinpoint on the political compass up and to the right.
Not allowed to be as you are because money? Not allowed to be as you are because our money and power at threat by not pandering to perceptions of public popular perception? Not allowed to be as you are because ticked the wrong box on bureaucratic form?
Not my greens.
Need more sane peeps going green, to dilute the crazy-on-crazy (that I suspect comes almost entirely from agent provocateurs), to dilute the agent provocateur infiltration, to help look out for each other, and keep focus on what the green parties are supposed to be about.
aaaa there is no UK green party. The Green Party of England and Wales is pretty shite, the other Green Parties in the UK are significantly better.
The Scottish Green Party just a few years ago successfully got a very progressive Gender Recognition Act voted through Scottish parliament (which the UK government then squashed). They assuredly still have problems, but they support Scottish independence, and they’ve successfully got a bunch of actually good things ™ into law.
Stings every time, when voting in UK elections, rather than Scotland’s. Not just because Westminster has no list system or any other kind of proportional voting, ranked choice, anything other than first past the post. But also because the resulting effects of that, the parties are more corrupt and coerced by the terror induced by the system to be more duplicitous and crap, and so it’s just blatant in your face, there are no good choices [if the “good” choice parties even run a candidate], and the more you try to vote for a good choice, [(albeit a signal to other sheeple to vote with their conscience next time now that others are too)], the more in that election you risk letting the worst in power… Like the system itself is constantly pushing for and towards kakistarchy.
I lived in England most of my life. First year in Scotland, and immediately it was the first time a (at least vaguely) left-wing party, one I voted for, actually got in government. One that went on to pass like, three laws that actually benefit me and others, surreal experience. Somehow, over time living in the same place, my rent, my dentistry costs, and my public transports costs all got cheaper, genuinely was strange to see.
There’s still a ton of problems with it all here, including much of the corruption, coercion and blatant lies you mention. But the proportional vote does make bourgeois democracy about 10% more meaningful, it’s only a 95% endless trudge into misery and despair, instead of 98%.
so much for being the “progressive” “alternative” to the “labour” “party”
Going back in time to tell Stalin the US had no more nukes left and now is the only chance to finish the job of exterminating fascism.
Yeah, if as reported, that’s going to radically nudge the UK green party’s pinpoint on the political compass up and to the right.
Not allowed to be as you are because money? Not allowed to be as you are because our money and power at threat by not pandering to perceptions of public popular perception? Not allowed to be as you are because ticked the wrong box on bureaucratic form?
Not my greens.
Need more sane peeps going green, to dilute the crazy-on-crazy (that I suspect comes almost entirely from agent provocateurs), to dilute the agent provocateur infiltration, to help look out for each other, and keep focus on what the green parties are supposed to be about.
aaaa there is no UK green party. The Green Party of England and Wales is pretty shite, the other Green Parties in the UK are significantly better.
The Scottish Green Party just a few years ago successfully got a very progressive Gender Recognition Act voted through Scottish parliament (which the UK government then squashed). They assuredly still have problems, but they support Scottish independence, and they’ve successfully got a bunch of actually good things ™ into law.
Tell that to our Westminster ballot papers.
Stings every time, when voting in UK elections, rather than Scotland’s. Not just because Westminster has no list system or any other kind of proportional voting, ranked choice, anything other than first past the post. But also because the resulting effects of that, the parties are more corrupt and coerced by the terror induced by the system to be more duplicitous and crap, and so it’s just blatant in your face, there are no good choices [if the “good” choice parties even run a candidate], and the more you try to vote for a good choice, [(albeit a signal to other sheeple to vote with their conscience next time now that others are too)], the more in that election you risk letting the worst in power… Like the system itself is constantly pushing for and towards kakistarchy.
I lived in England most of my life. First year in Scotland, and immediately it was the first time a (at least vaguely) left-wing party, one I voted for, actually got in government. One that went on to pass like, three laws that actually benefit me and others, surreal experience. Somehow, over time living in the same place, my rent, my dentistry costs, and my public transports costs all got cheaper, genuinely was strange to see.
There’s still a ton of problems with it all here, including much of the corruption, coercion and blatant lies you mention. But the proportional vote does make bourgeois democracy about 10% more meaningful, it’s only a 95% endless trudge into misery and despair, instead of 98%.
Well said. Familiar to quite a few, I’m sure.