• Le_Wokisme [they/them, undecided]@hexbear.net
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    28 days ago

    He’s a fucking twitch streamer who’s pushing politics left in America. He’s talking to millions of people who are starting to hate the neoliberal democrat party.

    if he’s moving them away from the democrats that’s good, if he’s sheepdogging radlibs into voting for kamala harris that’s bad.

    i’m a centrist here i think we could do actual academic work on the effect he has instead of vibes based analysis of the clips we happened to see

    • I don’t understand why people here have such strong opinions on the matter. He is useful to us. Dude is a fucking streamer, one who openly praises AES. Rip him when he sheepdogs, laud him when he advocates for revolutionary tactics or other shit we like. The binary thinking here is so strong sometimes.

    • BioWarfarePosadist [she/her, they/them]@hexbear.net
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      27 days ago

      I mean what did you want Hasan to do at that terrible junction? The PSL and other orgs didn’t have the time or organization to be ready to run a candidate against the mainstream candidate. Kamala is only a hair’s breadth better than Trump, but backing a total loser candidate would not have helped. Even if Hassan fan went out and voted PSL in 2024, it would have still been a Trump victory. Plus, with a 50.1% beating a Kamala 30% would have given the fascist an even bigger ego over “How much of Mandate they have.” I wouldn’t be able stand seeing that comment everywhere!

      • Le_Wokisme [they/them, undecided]@hexbear.net
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        27 days ago

        step 1: threaten to withhold votes in exchange for the slam dunk policy demand of being against genocide

        step 2: follow through on the threat when they want to support genocide more than they want to win an election

        i’m not going to dignify the rest of that lib shit with a response. libs are going to have to break with the party at some point, it might as fucking well have been over genocide.

        • I mean isn’t that what we basically did? I didn’t vote for Kamala or Trump myself.

          All I’m saying is that 2024 was a terrible time for any American with a tinge of actual leftism to participate in electoralism.

          I don’t think Hassan was 'Vote Blue no matter who" but was more “If you have to vote, please vote Kamala.” While actively criticizing Kamala for just being Biden 2.0. I’m pretty sure mainstream Dems hate him today because they think him not being balls deep for Kamala is why she lost.

          You don’t have to be a Hassan fan, but don’t be a hater just because his opinions on a dozen things are two degrees more to the right side of the left than you want.

          • Le_Wokisme [they/them, undecided]@hexbear.net
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            26 days ago

            no that’s exactly the time to advocate voting PSL or Green. or do that vote compact shit libs like where people in uncontestable states trade their vote with someone more radical in a swing state.