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          There are also a lot of non-native English speakers here. English is a tricky enough language when used sincerely, then add to that the fact that we English natives are huge fans of sarcasm, and I’m surprised misunderstandings don’t happen more often. (I had major culture shock moving to Japan and finding out sarcasm was not really a thing there. I always assumed it was part of the human condition.)

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            Japanese people can be just as sarcastic as English speakers. It flies over your head unless you’re actually good at the language. Same as English.

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            … eh?

            I’ve met and known a fair number of Japanese people from spending a fairly significant amount of time doing Karate, and living in areas of the US with significant numbers of Japanese immigrants, 2nd 3rd or 4th generation.

            Most of those I met were actually quite funny, making puns and jokes… in my experience, they would make a good number of jokes based around the difficulty they have learning/speaking English, and the difficulty English speakers have learning/speaking Japanese… like, very self-aware humor, self-deprecating sarcasm, sarcastic jabs, etc.

            I actually learned the “Don’t touchee my moustache” ‘joke’ from a Japanese person … explaining to me that that had started as a common English speaker corruption of dou itashimashite… I remember feeling a strange kind of … 3rd hand embarassment, if that makes any sense.

            … maybe we just met/knew different groups of Japanese people? I don’t think I met too many uh… salaryman types… ???

            I mean, honestly what I think is that… well in America, I’m an introverted autistic nerd with a sense of humor that is too complicated and particular for most Americans. Compared to most Japanese I’ve met? I am a polite yet clever, outgoing goofball.

            I think most Americans are just basically just extroverted assholes with fragile egos and projection problems, whose ‘humor’ is mostly based around genuinely insulting other people, but with flashy/evocative vocabulary.

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      so we put AIPAC and billionaires in concentrations camps and chop their heads off on the hour

      do i have my lemming memes corrects

      that kind of fight?

      or is it just cheap groceries

      sorry i was just joking it’s sarcasm hahahaha

      oh my neighbourhood in russia is not doing so well since the flying bombs

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    Ppl don’t want to win, they want someone else to win for them, which is how we got in this mess in the first place. American Democracy, in practice, encourages the notion that someone else will work on your interests, on your behalf, without requiring sustained effort on your part. We let elected official operate largely in secret and with zero oversite from those they represent, for 4 years.

    Until the electorate is able and willing to sustain oversite over the actions of their elected officials, with the tools necessary to step in and influence or remove their representatives, if needed, then there is no power outside voting every 4 years.

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      Democracy is as strong as its voter base. Right now we have a third of people ingesting complete nonsense propaganda on purpose, a third with no media literacy and many with no actual literacy and most of those people don’t vote, and the remaining third is a split between more corporate centrists and various leftists who disagree with the centrists and may or may not agree with the rest of the left on anything at all.

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      Agreed, freedom aint free. I truly believe this, even if I get down voted every single time I say it.

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    Oh that’s just like the DNC. They never fight. Just look at the North Carolina dnc. Tim Moore is up for reelection and the woman they have put up against him they have done absolutely nothing to get her message out or their message out or any message out. I have only seen one little tiny sign at the Democratic headquarters and then a big ass Roy Cooper sign. They have no fight in them at all. And their whole mantra is vote blue no matter who what choice do I have not vote?

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      Voting for a third party is only valid if a movement, a real one, forms around it. It will never work if it only siphons votes out of the dem bucket and lets republicans to kind of win by default. It has to have real momentum, real commitments, have visibility and voice across the states, so everyone will know they will not be just giving the republicans the win, rather, committing together as a big one, to something better. Even better if the various ideologically motivated but distinct camps within republicans would join the effort. Libertarians are the classic example, but I bet if things get momentum and it looks like the two parties are simply getting fractured either way, a lot of people will jump on the chance to get actual real representation and voice, not just a small camp within a big ambiguous mess the two parties kind of force.

      So instead of just voting for a third option and wasting your vote in the current system, organizing would be the real answer, the prerequisite for the third options to be valid. And it’s not that complicated, just needs to get viral and real commitments

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        Republicans don’t blame libertarians. they know that the people who want to vote for libertarians aren’t Republicans. the same can’t be said for Democrats. they believe they are owed every vote people choose to give to greens. it’s entitled.

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          And if you don’t vote for them or at all your voice doesn’t matter. I “love” that argument of institutional marginalization. It’s the same kind of thinking and justification they used for oppressing black voters for over a century.

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            your voice doesn’t matter

            You are the one who “doesnt matter” here because you cant win an election without progressives but you centrists refuse to engage with the voters and their issues. Why wont you lot ever talk about stopping the war criminality? Why is that off the table? Why Didnt Biden or Haris support single payer? Why not address issues of affordability and social injustice? Why was Bidens response to Defund & reallocate to increase police funding?

            Thats some bullshit and it will be a cold day in hell before I help elect another aipac-centrist. The cold hard fact is that you centrists arent in the center, you lean far right and you dont care about the voters actual issues. You are owed nothing and I see Dem party identification as a negative now when I vote, after a lifetime of being a straight ticket voter. The DNC did that, and now they can live with it. Go have tea with Schumer if you dont like it, because your voice doesnt matter to me.

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                Yes, I am. A person who chooses not to vote still has something to say and not voting means they feel marginalized by the system that it’s useless. They deserve as much time at the table as anyone else and the “always blue no matter who” types continually try to marginalize them.

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                  got it, my mistake, sorry. We do agree. I suppose I am a little overly trigger happy with all the posts telling me I dont have a say at all if I didnt vote team blue or red.

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    We won’t win without organization. With that we need some white populist candidates. Wtf is wrong that we have 0 white populist left candidates?

    Seriously, something is wrong.

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      Sorry, I would help you out there but I was banned from r/democrats for saying Biden shouldn’t run for re-election and was spoken to like a child and made persona non grata at my local democratic party meeting for saying we should actually get people on the ballot in every race. Granted, the later was over a decade ago so maybe some non-asshole non-idiots have started to show up.