Do they need to build dozens of gas turbines to run YouTube for me to watch it for an hour?
The AI buildout is happening so fast that the grid can’t support it, you need to account for that. Energy use is less intensive after training, but it’s still immense and happening in places without preexisting energy infrastructure. It’s the same problem with water use - it uses less water than beef, but they’re building data centers in places without the water infrastructure to support it.
They did need to build gas and coal power plants to let you watch YouTube back when it was becoming popular, yes. Their share in the new generation capacity was very high back then.
I actually 100% agree that we should not be building more datacenters. Current-gen (and even last-gen) local LLMs are very good for most applicable tasks already, and we are past the point of diminishing returns.
It’s the same problem with water use - it uses less water than beef, but they’re building data centers in places without the water infrastructure to support it.
USians are growing so much alfalfa in some of their deserts that it leaves locals without water for residential use or even drinking. It’s not a problem exclusive to data centers.
No, they did not need to build new gas and coal plants for YouTube, what the fuck are you talking about? We were closing coal plants before the AI datacenter boom, now they’re trying to reopen them. They’re actually building unregulated off-grid gas turbines and dreaming up miniature nuclear power plants to power the data centers, that’s totally different than what they did to build YouTube.
People hate AI and it sounds like what you’re saying is we shouldn’t care about AI water or energy use because of cars, flesh, planes, and YouTube. All that does is make people hate you. You care about messaging, right? Then what you should actually be doing is using AI as the starting point to make people start caring about those other things too.
USians are growing so much alfalfa in some of their deserts that it leaves locals without water for residential use or even drinking. It’s not a problem exclusive to data centers.
you’re only allowed to solve one problem at a time. i’m very clever you see so i don’t need to educate myself about that but you should perhaps ponder upon it.
Do they need to build dozens of gas turbines to run YouTube for me to watch it for an hour?
The AI buildout is happening so fast that the grid can’t support it, you need to account for that. Energy use is less intensive after training, but it’s still immense and happening in places without preexisting energy infrastructure. It’s the same problem with water use - it uses less water than beef, but they’re building data centers in places without the water infrastructure to support it.
They did need to build gas and coal power plants to let you watch YouTube back when it was becoming popular, yes. Their share in the new generation capacity was very high back then.
I actually 100% agree that we should not be building more datacenters. Current-gen (and even last-gen) local LLMs are very good for most applicable tasks already, and we are past the point of diminishing returns.
USians are growing so much alfalfa in some of their deserts that it leaves locals without water for residential use or even drinking. It’s not a problem exclusive to data centers.
No, they did not need to build new gas and coal plants for YouTube, what the fuck are you talking about? We were closing coal plants before the AI datacenter boom, now they’re trying to reopen them. They’re actually building unregulated off-grid gas turbines and dreaming up miniature nuclear power plants to power the data centers, that’s totally different than what they did to build YouTube.
People hate AI and it sounds like what you’re saying is we shouldn’t care about AI water or energy use because of cars, flesh, planes, and YouTube. All that does is make people hate you. You care about messaging, right? Then what you should actually be doing is using AI as the starting point to make people start caring about those other things too.
i complain about that, too
you’re only allowed to solve one problem at a time. i’m very clever you see so i don’t need to educate myself about that but you should perhaps ponder upon it.