Not an even an incel thing, this guy’s had sex, has had a long term girlfriend previously, but for some reason just doesn’t come to meetups with women there any more and even makes an excuse to leave if a woman he doesn’t know well arrives unexpectedly
Lots of men appear normal to other men but have a totally different behavior to women. Men dont even notice it when it is done right in front of them.
Incel is a novel, named phenomena which is just one collection of attitudes and relationships on a spectrum of patriarchy.
I get a lot of the guys who think I’m one of the guys and will just say unhinged shit around me. A lot of men are really good at hiding their latent misogyny.
imo one thing that it’s difficult for people who weren’t AMAB to understand is that it doesn’t matter how nice or relaxed or considerate or whatever a man seems, there’s still at least a 50% chance he will turn into a demon when triggered by like, a trans person existing or something.
Another telling one I randomly thought of recently- a good 80% of men wouldn’t even consider going to see a female stand-up.
I have mostly female friends and live with my wife and her mom. Only direct family I have is my sister, mom, and grandmother. So I’m basically always in the presence of women. I have a few guy friends who aren’t creeps, but it’s just kinda exhausting hanging out with most others.
I’ve found that at least some of the younger married ones are better, but it’s still 50/50 on them flipping when it’s just the two of us lol.