Her admitted opium addiction is not something we should mock. Addiction is a serious issue.
The fact that she started doing it because she likes the aesthetics of an opium den is a bit funny, but being an addict is a disease and not funny.
I was implying alcoholism, and we can talk about how addictions effect judgment and behavior. That’s one of the defining things about drug/alcohol addictions.
No they’re not. She’s not a weird centrist lib who thinks genocide is about her because she drinks, and she doesn’t drink because her politics are bad. People have bad takes without being alcoholics.
There are strong indications that she’s drunk every time she tweets, and that effects the self-centeredness, lack of ability to see how she looks, lack of inhibition and emotionalism of her tweets, and those are things you’re making fun of and inviting us to make fun of. You’re not just mocking her bad politics, you’re mocking the way she expresses them. If you were purely mocking someone’s bad politics, you wouldn’t go after contrapoints, you’d post the thousands of articles and opinion pieces in major publications denying the genocide in Gaza.
I don’t know shit about the science of addiction, but I have been to rehab. Can confirm that they love to harp on about how they influenced the conception of addiction as being an “allergy” (their words). I’m still inclined to think it is a disease though. 12-step evangelists talk out of both sides of their mouths to launder their more heinous dynamics by highlighting ostensibly positive or benign dynamics (their approach to religion being the most apparent). I suspect the 12-steppers deliberately conflate the more modern conception of addiction as disease with the shit they peddle so they can keep their steel grip on the addiction recovery business in the Great Satan.
Only in the sense that everything surrounding addiction is. But addiction as disease is just the correct heuristic and is used by everyone from psychiatrists to therapists to laypeople.
Her admitted opium addiction is not something we should mock. Addiction is a serious issue. The fact that she started doing it because she likes the aesthetics of an opium den is a bit funny, but being an addict is a disease and not funny.
I was implying alcoholism, and we can talk about how addictions effect judgment and behavior. That’s one of the defining things about drug/alcohol addictions.
That would still be an addiction, still be serious, and still not be worth mocking.
If you feel so strongly about it, take this post down and never make fun of her again.
Mocking someone for having a bad take and mocking them for their disease are not the same
They’re not separate things. One feeds into the other.
No they’re not. She’s not a weird centrist lib who thinks genocide is about her because she drinks, and she doesn’t drink because her politics are bad. People have bad takes without being alcoholics.
There are strong indications that she’s drunk every time she tweets, and that effects the self-centeredness, lack of ability to see how she looks, lack of inhibition and emotionalism of her tweets, and those are things you’re making fun of and inviting us to make fun of. You’re not just mocking her bad politics, you’re mocking the way she expresses them. If you were purely mocking someone’s bad politics, you wouldn’t go after contrapoints, you’d post the thousands of articles and opinion pieces in major publications denying the genocide in Gaza.
Addiction is not a disease. Classifying it as such is counterproductive.
You can’t get cured of a disease by going to therapy. Addiction is primarily psychological and emotional.
You can’t get cured of addiction by going to therapy either. This isn’t a good take.
You can just post shit, nobody can stop you.
Addiction as a disease is intimately linked to AA 12-steps culture btw
I don’t know shit about the science of addiction, but I have been to rehab. Can confirm that they love to harp on about how they influenced the conception of addiction as being an “allergy” (their words). I’m still inclined to think it is a disease though. 12-step evangelists talk out of both sides of their mouths to launder their more heinous dynamics by highlighting ostensibly positive or benign dynamics (their approach to religion being the most apparent). I suspect the 12-steppers deliberately conflate the more modern conception of addiction as disease with the shit they peddle so they can keep their steel grip on the addiction recovery business in the Great Satan.
Only in the sense that everything surrounding addiction is. But addiction as disease is just the correct heuristic and is used by everyone from psychiatrists to therapists to laypeople.
Obviously I don’t know her irl but I get the impression contra isn’t an alcoholic, she just likes drinking a lot. There’s a distinction there.
The accusation here is alcoholism specifically, and I object to mocking someone for their disease.