• PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmy.ml
    1·
    14 days ago

    Plurality of views, libs should be happy they can access censored media posted by dissidents who could face arrest for it in Europe. Yet they are for some reason incredibly mad about it, could it be that they lie about the freeze peach?

    • SW42@lemmy.world
      01·
      14 days ago

      Umm… censored media? More like Russian propaganda. And yes, I am aware that western propaganda exists and we consume it nevertheless. As far as I’m concerned the Russian interest to destabilize Europe (which is of course a reasonable thing to want on their side) is real and should not have a free pass. But you do you, just don’t frame it as west bad for censorship. How much of western media is freely accessible in Russia?

      • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmy.ml
        2·
        12 days ago

        What’s actually being said is that the west is hypocritical, preaching one thing and doing another. Also, your whole argument is demonstrably nonsense because during the Cold War the west was secure enough to not block any Soviet media. It’s not like Russia has a more powerful propaganda machine than USSR did. What changed is that now there is domestic discontent in the west due to collapsing living standards which is what’s making people open to alternative views. Banning outside media is just an attempt to sweep underlying material problems under the carpet.

      • eldavi@lemmy.mlEnglish
        1·
        14 days ago

        It seems like the West – especially the united states – gets firehosed propaganda from everywhere constantly, but it’s divided into tiny and easy to miss pieces w each piece getting dispensed from CNN, fox, NPR, BBC, le monde, der Spiegel, etc or in movies and in pop culture.

        Outside the west, they have a dedicated propaganda channels that serve the same function that fox news does for americans so it’s easily disregarded.

        Also: Western media is spoonfed to foreign audiences partially for the same reasons americans want to access it; but primarily as a means to inject pro-western narratives through non-governmental agencies like the national endowment for democracy; radio free Asia; USAID; etc. Also, in many cases local media sources themselves are captured by various means and end up becoming pro-western propaganda peddlers themselves.

        a very recent and embarrassingly transparent example of this happened recently in Mexico, targeting President Sheinbaum. The tv station named “tv azteca” is owned by a trump ally and they coordinated efforts w the american non-governmental agencies in Mexico to start another “genz revolution” like the agencies did in Nepal a year before.

        Cases like Mexico prove that the us empire is in decline, but cases like Nepal or Ukraine prove that it’s still capable of doing a lot of damage on its way out.

      • Jiggle_Physics@quokk.auEnglish
        04·
        13 days ago

        I have never liked CNN, I have no idea who you are talking about. Have fun accepting bullshit just because it isn’t from the west, eat your slop.

                • RiverRock@lemmy.ml
                  2·
                  12 days ago

                  Massive self report that you literally can’t even imagine a worldview that isnt a product of slavish obedience. “You don’t hate The Enemy you have been instructed to hate for the spurious reasons you have been instructed to hate them, it must be because you are a dumb automaton.”

                  That’s cool man, just lay out your follower-ass psychology for all to see.

            • Tomorrow_Farewell [any, they/them]@hexbear.netEnglish
              3·
              12 days ago

              If you accept state propaganda just because it is not “western” flavor

              Weirdly enough, you don’t make such protestations against your empire’s propaganda.

              Enjoy your hard right wing, capitalist, oligarchical slop

              Quick question - do you support NATO (including Ukraine) in the war in Ukraine?

              • Jiggle_Physics@quokk.auEnglish
                03·
                13 days ago

                Because their comment was in a whataboutism in defense of of propaganda channels like RT. If you actually recognize what it is, why say anything?

                • RiverRock@lemmy.ml
                  3·
                  12 days ago

                  It’s so cool how you guys have fun little words to pathologize anyone who disagrees with omnicidal liberalism, it would be terrible if you had to think about these things on their own terms.