For over two decades, Counter-Strike has offered an elite competitive experience, one shaped by millions of players from across the globe. And now the next chapter in the CS story is about to begin. This is Counter-Strike 2.
I am inclined to say CounterStrike has been “enshittified” with the removal of GO, and version 2 being made. CS2 seems to be GPU reliant, as opposed to every single CS/HL title before that used to run atleast no stutters 80-100 fps even on a midrange laptop from 5-6 years ago with no GPU.
This is a sad moment, and probably the death of probably what was the last great gaming title that democratised competitive gaming.
OMG ze smokes!!! How can I even play with just 480p smoke, I need 4K smoke!!! Da bullet poking holes in smoke screens waaaaaa!!
Thankfully I grew old just in time to have quit gaming for a few years now, and no longer need to bother with it. I will play my good old Mario Forever community fanmakes, NES/SNES games, those pre 2008 PC games once a week.
Enshittification is about increasing monetisation of a previously free/cheap product.
Adobe moving from a lifetime purchase to a subscription service: enshittification.
Adobe not supporting old GPUs: not enshittification.
Twitter locking rate limits behind subscription: enshittification.
Twitter rebranding to X: not enshittification.
Raspberry Pi prioritising business customers making SKUs rare and enabling scalpers: enshittification.
Raspberry Pi moving to a new version of Debian making many tutorials outdated: not enshittification
Ensittificstion is the process of a platform good for users becoming good for business customers, becoming good for investors/shareholders.
Whilst it is a cool phrase, and an interesting observation, enshittification doesn’t apply to everything that has a core change.
Enshittification would be mandatory ads in-game, some sort of P2W mechanic.
Requiring better hardware is not enshittification.
Requiring better hardware for an almost insignificant upgrade (high quality smoke textures, bullet poking through smokescreens), compared to previous version of the game (CSGO) that can run at 80 fps with a common midrange 2016 laptop CPU (i5-7200U) and no GPU, absolutely counts as enshittification.
I am not one of those users that overuse the buzzword of the month for social validation purposes. You can search the number of times I have used that word using Lemmy’s search feature.
Ok.
CS:GO, a game released in 2012? Runs well on a 2016 laptop.
CS2, a game released in 2023 can run well on a 2027 laptop.
I don’t think that’s the argument you want to make?
And I still don’t think it’s enshittification.
No, the argument is CS has been CPU reliant before CS2. This is what should have been kept, allowing for democratised CS gaming even on potatos, which has been a tradition since forever. CS2 seems to have been made GPU reliant, which is the reason for reported performance differences from CSGO.
This is the basis of my argument.
CS is not a game or a competitive FPS, it is a tradition, unlike most games. It is what Unreal or Tekken or KOF or many Arcade classics used to be.
CS:go required anything DX9 compatible with 256mb VRAM. Which would be an NVidia 6600, a midrange GPU from 2004 - around the time CS Source was released.
CS2 minimum spec is a GTX650. Which is a mid range GPU from 2012, around the time cs:go was released.
Something of a pattern there…
If CPUs didn’t have integrated GPUs, this whole “cs is CPU dependent” thing wouldn’t apply, because you would STILL need a GPU.
It’s just that intel bundled a barely passable GPU alongside the CPU.
TBH, I think you are missing you’re argument.
You should be arguing that there is no way to play cs:go now that cs2 has released. Meaning a potential hardware upgrade requirement.
That is a bummer. That’s pretty shit.
But it is NOT enshittification.
That does not claw back value/money from customers to valve or its investors.
Unless you can show me, beyond reasonable doubt, that Valve is making money from giving away CS2 for free to anyone that has purchased cs:go through the requirement of a hardware upgrade.
Until then, this is not enshittification.
I am inclined to say CounterStrike has been “enshittified” with the removal of GO, and version 2 being made. CS2 seems to be GPU reliant, as opposed to every single CS/HL title before that used to run atleast no stutters 80-100 fps even on a midrange laptop from 5-6 years ago with no GPU.
This is a sad moment, and probably the death of probably what was the last great gaming title that democratised competitive gaming.
the smokes tho
OMG ze smokes!!! How can I even play with just 480p smoke, I need 4K smoke!!! Da bullet poking holes in smoke screens waaaaaa!!
Thankfully I grew old just in time to have quit gaming for a few years now, and no longer need to bother with it. I will play my good old Mario Forever community fanmakes, NES/SNES games, those pre 2008 PC games once a week.
Lol it’s more like “no more shitty 1 way smokes that make enemies have a very stupid advantage due to a glitch”
Enshittification is about increasing monetisation of a previously free/cheap product.
Adobe moving from a lifetime purchase to a subscription service: enshittification.
Adobe not supporting old GPUs: not enshittification.
Twitter locking rate limits behind subscription: enshittification.
Twitter rebranding to X: not enshittification.
Raspberry Pi prioritising business customers making SKUs rare and enabling scalpers: enshittification.
Raspberry Pi moving to a new version of Debian making many tutorials outdated: not enshittification
Ensittificstion is the process of a platform good for users becoming good for business customers, becoming good for investors/shareholders.
Whilst it is a cool phrase, and an interesting observation, enshittification doesn’t apply to everything that has a core change.
Enshittification would be mandatory ads in-game, some sort of P2W mechanic.
Requiring better hardware is not enshittification.
Requiring better hardware for an almost insignificant upgrade (high quality smoke textures, bullet poking through smokescreens), compared to previous version of the game (CSGO) that can run at 80 fps with a common midrange 2016 laptop CPU (i5-7200U) and no GPU, absolutely counts as enshittification.
I am not one of those users that overuse the buzzword of the month for social validation purposes. You can search the number of times I have used that word using Lemmy’s search feature.
Ok.
CS:GO, a game released in 2012? Runs well on a 2016 laptop.
CS2, a game released in 2023 can run well on a 2027 laptop.
I don’t think that’s the argument you want to make?
And I still don’t think it’s enshittification.
No, the argument is CS has been CPU reliant before CS2. This is what should have been kept, allowing for democratised CS gaming even on potatos, which has been a tradition since forever. CS2 seems to have been made GPU reliant, which is the reason for reported performance differences from CSGO.
This is the basis of my argument.
CS is not a game or a competitive FPS, it is a tradition, unlike most games. It is what Unreal or Tekken or KOF or many Arcade classics used to be.
CS has always needed a GPU.
CS:go required anything DX9 compatible with 256mb VRAM. Which would be an NVidia 6600, a midrange GPU from 2004 - around the time CS Source was released.
CS2 minimum spec is a GTX650. Which is a mid range GPU from 2012, around the time cs:go was released.
Something of a pattern there…
If CPUs didn’t have integrated GPUs, this whole “cs is CPU dependent” thing wouldn’t apply, because you would STILL need a GPU.
It’s just that intel bundled a barely passable GPU alongside the CPU.
TBH, I think you are missing you’re argument.
You should be arguing that there is no way to play cs:go now that cs2 has released. Meaning a potential hardware upgrade requirement.
That is a bummer. That’s pretty shit.
But it is NOT enshittification.
That does not claw back value/money from customers to valve or its investors.
Unless you can show me, beyond reasonable doubt, that Valve is making money from giving away CS2 for free to anyone that has purchased cs:go through the requirement of a hardware upgrade.
Until then, this is not enshittification.
Is it shitty? Sure.