SOUTH AMERICAN ELECTIONS

[two different people are being portrayed side by side]

Gabriela Rosa Sympatica
Elementary school teacher
Beloved by her community
Wants to improve lives
[portrait of a smiling woman in overalls]

Diego Hitlerio de la Junta
Son of a previous dictator
Went to jail for corruption
Wants to sterilize natives
[portrait of a frowning nasty looking character in military gear]

Temporary results (98% ballots counted):
[Gabriela] 49.9999%
[Diego] 50.0001%

https://thebad.website/comic/south_american_elections

  • Ilixtze@lemmy.mlEnglish
    2·
    3 months ago

    This meme forgot to mention that the hitler candidate probably has a million dollar campaign funded by US billionaires or even the United States government itself and that he promised that when he won he would build 2 military bases in his territory, give up all his country’s resources and infrastructure to US companies and a lot of land to zionist settlers.

    • teyrnon@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
      1·
      3 months ago

      Not really, latin america is pretty fucked up man. It’s a large part because of that largest country, but no, latin america is by and large a shit show. Even moreso than the US, for the moment, give it some time the US is falling fast.

      • The D Quuuuuill@slrpnk.netEnglish
        2·
        3 months ago

        it’s not latin america’s fault latin america is a mess. latin america was much more stable before european colonization destroyed the social structures and societal infrastructure that had developed there for milenia. the fact we even call it “latin” “america” when those are both european constructs from the peninsula of italy should tell you something

        • teyrnon@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
          1·
          3 months ago

          The causes of it being a mess are varied sure. And as I said, due to the US, but also the espaniards before them obviously, mostly from them. They were the fucking devil. There is a reason FARC was started by renegade Jesuit Priests like Sertorius in actual spain from the roman era circa 1st century bc of colonizing spain.

          Sertorius was a roman general that got disgusted by the tactics of the empire, and went over to the spanish tribes. He laid waste tot he romans for a long time, it’s a great story, eventually his lieutenant killed him to take the leader post, and promptly lost to pompey that had been dispatched to deal with the rebellion. A decades long rebellion.

          I digress though, the pre columbian latin america, had it’s own problems, human sacrifice and such. Cutting people’s hearts out while alive, skinning them alive. That is not all fabrication by the espaniards either I’ve been assured. They were stone age, and doing the same things the old world did in the stone age.

          But now, what to do? We need to organize and cooperate on what we agree on. Then [redacted] and to buy that new mario brothers game and learn to play it multiplayer, but once again, I’m off subject.

  • maxalmonte14@lemmy.worldEnglish
    1·
    3 months ago

    So unrealistic, the dictator would win by a way bigger margin. I’m from the Caribbean so I should know.

  • NONE@lemmy.worldEnglish
    1·
    3 months ago

    Hey, Latin American here! A few comments to expand:

    • In the vast majority of Latin American countries, voting is direct. in other words, a vote for a dude is a vote for that dude, period. No electoral colleges or any of that nonsense they do in the United States (Your system is shit, I’ll die on this hill).
    • Most elections have a turnout that, in the very best of cases, reaches 50% of the eligible population (those over 18, registered in the system, etc.)
      • Therefore, this 50/50 in “real numbers” would be more like 25/25 or so.
      • The remaining population would consist of people who are disillusioned with the system or apathetic toward it (mostly young people).

    The thing is, no matter how much of an anarchist I want to be, I can’t fully support not voting. Because it’s precisely by not voting that the Diego Hitlerios come to power and screw us all over.

    • Equinox1289@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
      1·
      3 months ago

      You need a system like Ranked Choice voting to prevent the issues that cause strategic voting and the 2 party system.

    • Cethin@lemmy.zipEnglish
      1·
      3 months ago

      The thing is, no matter how much of an anarchist I want to be, I can’t fully support not voting. Because it’s precisely by not voting that the Diego Hitlerios come to power and screw us all over.

      I’m also an Anarchist. I hate how the left has to shoot itself in the foot for the sake of purity constantly. Not voting doesn’t make you more of an Anarchist, or whatever you are. It just makes it so you don’t get a say in the election, and the right certainly doesn’t have any of the same issues with voting. You should vote for whatever moves us toward the correct path, not avoid voting because you think you’re too good for it.

      Yes, elections suck. If they worked as well as we want we probably wouldn’t have them (or we’d be in a very different situation and this wouldn’t be an issue). However, participation takes almost no effort. The effect it has per unit of effort spent is pretty incredibly high. It’s not going to change the world, but it will help some people, and it only takes you all of a few minutes usually.

    • brucethemoose@lemmy.worldEnglish
      1·
      3 months ago

      The electoral college is one of those many US things that kinda made sense 150 years ago.

      …And that we never really fixed.

      Whoops.

      • starsoaked_lily@lemmy.mlEnglish
        1·
        3 months ago

        it only “made sense” then to preserve the power of the elite pseudo-aristocracy, which is the same thing it does now too (despite the other changes that have been made)

    • Bad@jlai.luOPEnglish
      1·
      3 months ago

      Me watching the peruvian ultraleftist who proudly showed a pic proving he voted for “Tung Tung Lenin” last week, not realizing he might end up being the reason his family and him will get disappeared in a fujimorist labor camp in a few months.

      • NONE@lemmy.worldEnglish
        1·
        3 months ago

        Nah, not camps. Sterilized and/or “disappeared”, latinamerican way

    • Herr_S_aus_H@lemmy.zipEnglish
      1·
      3 months ago

      To not try to at least prevent the worst outcome from happening and to not try to make the situation better at least somewhat is just stupid. Although I see myself as an anarchist I vote in every election. There is always a not so shit option on the ballot.
      Just voting is still not enough and real change will most certainly not come through a election.

    • drcobaltjedi@programming.devEnglish
      1·
      3 months ago

      (Your system is shit, I’ll die on this hill).

      Oh trust me, a lot of us fully agree this system is dumb as hell. Personally I’m in favor of a parliamentary system with a PM who is just a random rep from the leading party and disposing of the senate because it just artificially inflates the voting power of corn. Corn’s cool and all, but I don’t think corn’s existence should count as like 6 Californian votes.

    • GeneralEmergency@lemmy.worldEnglish
      1·
      3 months ago

      Because it’s precisely by not voting that the Diego Hitlerios come to power and screw us all over.

      wish more people would realise this.

  • Glytch@lemmy.worldEnglish
    1·
    3 months ago

    Diego Hitlerio said he would open up the nation’s natural resources to American corporations so the CIA is running a smear campaign on Ms. Sympatica and will overthrow her if she still manages to get elected.

  • some pirate@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
    1·
    3 months ago

    Sympatica is clearly a radical communist while hitlerio is a gentleman, let’s see what he has to say for the next 24 hours of television

  • Lovable Sidekick@lemmy.worldEnglish
    1·
    3 months ago

    Almost makes you think of the recent US presidential election, where in swing states ONLY and for in-person voting ONLY (not mail-ins), statistically anomalous numbers of Trump ballots were Democrat all the rest of the way down, in numbers just high enough for him to win but just low enough not to trigger mandatory recounts, in places where voting machines received software updates just before and just after the election.

    • starsoaked_lily@lemmy.mlEnglish
      1·
      3 months ago

      i remember this theory - there were a few issues, if i remember right:

      the most obvious being there isn’t actually a way to know how many people vote red or blue down-ballot (for the very obvious reason that nobody knows how specific people’s ballots look) so the guy was making some wild assumptions,

      which isn’t shocking considering this same guy had run to the news crying wolf about a previous election (which it isn’t as popular to be conspiritorial about) with similarly massaged logic,

      and the very short list of districts which “inexplicably” voted as a block against democrats, if you literally just look at the election history, usually vote as a block and sometimes for republicans - claims it was statistically impossible or whatever really don’t hold up to basic scrutiny,

      genuinely i get it, it would be really comforting (in a way) to explain away trump getting elected again as the result of clandestine actors literally flipping bits or whatever, but they didn’t appear to have done that so please stop credulously believing things like this without taking a few minutes to look into it and check if it actually holds water.

      the dnc annointed deeply unpopular biden to run again and let him make a fool of himself long after it was clear he wasn’t up to it and didn’t have popular support, replaced him with his vp who wasn’t willing to distinguish herself from him on policy and who sought republican votes at the cost of building enthusiastic support from the whole big tent of democrats, literally refused to even record feedback they received specifically about voters being fed up with the genocide of palestinians when canvassing and conducting surveys, etc. and on the republican side they have engaged in very loud very public voter suppression increasingly for a long time - we don’t need to look for hidden (especially trivially disprovable) insight into what happened when there were such obvious reasons

      • Lovable Sidekick@lemmy.worldEnglish
        0·
        3 months ago

        Dunno which guy you mean but he wasn’t anybody who cried wolf in a previous election. The facts he presented were exactly what I stated - statististically anomalous number of people voting for Trump and then voting for Democrats all the way down the ballot. That happens, but in several of the swing states it happened far more than it ever has, and yet just short of enough to trigger automatic recounts, and only with election-night voting. What you’re responding with is opinion and calling those observations “wild assumptions” without saying what’s wild about them, then some subjective opinion about Biden and genocide yada yada - pure opinion that I’m not here to argue about. The numbers are what they are.