Billionaires deserve to be abolished. If they won’t give up control of the world’s resources by choice, then yes they deserve to be killed, as an act of collective self-defense by the ecology against them. And so far, they have never voluntarily given up control.
They can’t actually resist appropriation personally. That would be like one person trying to stop all of 1000 people from crossing an imaginary line that’s 10 miles long.
The problem isn’t that they’ll personally resist but that they will spend their resources on a private military to protect their assets.
Good point.
How would you feel if someone on here or somewhere else think you deserve cancer?
What has this person done to deserve cancer?
Billionaires exploit and their actions directly negatively impact billions of humans and other creatures on this planet
They actually give people cancer by mass polluting
Fascists, anticommunist liberals, LGBTphobes, statists, and conservatives have been wishing infinite violence and death on me, my friends, and my family for my entire adult life. I sleep like a baby knowing that my enemies are monsters and that I must be doing something right for them to want to kill me. The billionaires also sleep like babies because they are open monsters and have no conscience.
…are you a billionaire? Be honest.
Selena Gomez, Taylor Swift, Kim Kardashian, and Oprah are billionaires. One could argue, “You shouldn’t say they deserve to die.” However, you do have the right to say that; it’s the First Amendment. So yes, if you feel that Selena Gomez or Tyler Perry deserves to die because they are billionaires, then you can say it—you have that right. At the exact same time, I have the right to say that your young children deserve painful cancer, or that they deserve to die in a school shooting. Thats my first amendment right.
At the exact same time, I have the right to say that your young children deserve painful cancer, or that they deserve to die in a school shooting. Thats my first amendment right.
Yeah I don’t care lol, you’re just some broken soul crashing out in a public forum.
How would you feel if a giant straw man kicked you in the dick?
It’s not a straw man. How does my argument connect to my post? I didn’t say if I agreed with you or not. If you think billionaires deserve to die then thats your right to think that way, you are entitled to how you feel and it’s your first amendment right to say that.
Selena Gomez, Taylor Swift, Kim Kardashian, and Oprah are billionaires. One could argue, “You shouldn’t say they deserve to die.” However, you do have the right to say that; it’s the First Amendment. So yes, if you feel that Selena Gomez or Tyler Perry deserves to die because they are billionaires, then you can say it—you have that right. At the exact same time, I have the right to say that your two young nephews deserve painful cancer, or that they deserve to die in a school shooting.
thanks for trying though lil bro, you’ll get there one day!
Someone would have to be pretty provoked to want that for someone else who isn’t a dick like me. What we’re seeing here for provocation is the systematically terrible things Mr Musk and other elities have done in the name of profit or power.
There’s a certain point where gluttony becomes so egregious that it’s probably due to something illegal or highly immoral.
We should have a trial, I guess.
Imagine we were monkeys in a forest and a few select monkeys were hoarding all of the food in their trees, letting most of it rot or go to little use aside from status and using it to bribe other monkeys to perpetuate the system. This same system that leaves other creatures to starve and suffer. This would be a deranged cancerous behavior, and even more terrifying when you consider it is almost guaranteed to pass down to the offspring. These pests would need to be driven off or eradicated as they would be a serious environmental threat. This is what must be done to billionaires, there just is no place for them in a logical system. They must be treated like rabid animals.
That’s fair.
I could also say you are a rabid animal that deserves cancer.
I could say your kid deserves to die from cancer or be shot.
Freedom of speech works both ways.
You can say anything. You cannot create logic from nothing. He has a point - a purpose. He is saying cancer cannot be tolerated in a system because it kills the system. You’re saying random people can be killed in a system because… they can be killed? His has purpose of defending life, yours has no purpose.
…because they aren’t hoarding all the food?
This post is in fact cancer.
Gathering up a billion dollars is a horrific strain to an economy. It is unnatural and impossible by any normal means … it is economic cancer. You could go back in time 2026 years and save the equivalent of $400,000 a year for those 2026 years and you STILL would not have a billion dollars. Its more than anyone ever needs and society should not tolerate gluttony and greed such as this. It is not natural.
You can, but you shouldn’t. If you came up to me and told me my nephew deserves to die of cancer, I’d tell you you’re an asshole and I want you to stay away from me and my family
but you shouldn’t
Selena Gomez, Taylor Swift, Kim Kardashian, and Oprah are billionaires. One could argue, “You shouldn’t say they deserve to die.” However, you do have the right to say that; it’s the First Amendment. So yes, if you feel that Selena Gomez or Tyler Perry deserves to die because they are billionaires, then you can say it—you have that right. At the exact same time, I have the right to say that your two young nephews deserve painful cancer, or that they deserve to die in a school shooting.
Nobody is denying you have a legal right to say it, it just doesn’t make any sense to say it, especially completely unprovoked. I’m not saying any of those celebrities should die, it’s just you saying that. I don’t know why you’re so obsessed with your right to wish kids dead. It’s disturbing
’m not saying any of those celebrities should die
Dude, here is my point, and this is the only point I’m making: the people in these comments are saying Tyler Perry, Oprah, Selena Gomez, and Taylor Swift deserve to die since they are billionaires. If they die, these people will celebrate their deaths, which is 100% okay—that is their right to say and do that. At the same time, however, people are allowed to say, ‘Your kids deserve cancer. They deserve to die in a school shooting.’ See how that works? If you think someone deserves to die, then people are also allowed to think you deserve to die. That’s all I’m saying, dude.
They already think I should die. You’re confusing your timeline.
People feeling that billionaire parasites that are already trying to kill us by poking holes in the lifeboat should be stopped from trying to kill us is the real order.
Also, your supposed self professed point isn’t your point. Or if it truly is, than you’re in im14andthisisdeep territory that isn’t even worth speaking out loud and your parents need to restrict your internet access.
If you think someone deserves to die, then people are also allowed to think you deserve to die.
Yeah I literally don’t care if you think or even outright say I deserve to die. It’s literally not a speech issue. It’s about the implication that one plans to act on those things.
For example, when a fascist or an anticommunist liberal says “PM_ME_VINTAGE_30S should die for being an anarcho-communist”, it’s their right to say that and, in isolation, I wouldn’t care. And I basically never do act on these threats. The issue is that there is both a historical precedent and current practice of fascists and anticommunist liberals acting on their threats.
If one says to me “PM_ME_VINTAGE_30S’s kids deserve to die of cancer in a school shooting”… that has no teeth in reality. I have no kids, and even if I did, one can’t give them cancer, and the person would just be mentioning school shootings to be edgy. It’s just some asshole babbling on the Internet.
And for this reason, I actually do understand why billionaires crack down on anti-capitalist speech in practice: because it will strip of their power, and possibly their lives if they keep up their horseshit. I simply do not care about billionaires and their monstrous desires. From their perspective, the threat posed by anti-capitalists is real…but billionaires have brought it on themselves, and they can easily fix this by voluntarily surrendering their control, telling their militaries to back off, and giving control of the means of production to the workers.
Like yes, I absolutely do want to make the “nice” billionaires you mentioned no longer billionaires. If they’re really so “nice”, then violence should not need to be an option.
How many times will you watch a person with pockets full of $1,000,000 walk past starving people who need only $1 to survive and they never help a single one, before you realise that person is anti-human and is bad for our species?
Freedom of speech does, but morality does not.
Money is blood. That is what its function is. It works by flowing. If it accumulates in the brain and stays, you die. If it stays in the heart, you die. Money works by flowing. Billionaires take such a large percentage of the money, that it breaks the function that money serves.
Billionaires literally care so much about hoarding their wealth that it breaks everything. They are like people who want to poke holes in a lifeboat, because they want everything. They are an existential threat to all civilization. Thiel left because America because he no longer has faith in its stability, in part, because he destabilized it due to his mental illness of wanting to have too much.
Do you enjoy kneeling in front of those who happily want end your civilization due to their mental illness?
Do you enjoy kneeling in front of those who happily want end your civilization due to their mental illness?
No, I don’t. But claiming someone deserves to die, celebrating their death, etc., is an extreme slippery slope that can be turned right back around on you. Like I said, you have the right to say whatever the hell you want and feel however you want. If someone thinks you deserve cancer, hopes you get cancer, or hopes your kid dies painfully in a school shooting, they are also entitled to feel that way, in the same way that you feel that way.
Difference is that they want EVERYONE to get cancer. They want EVERYONE to die. That’s what poking holes in a lifeboat does. And if you were in a lifeboat, and someone started poking holes in it, you would kill them if only in self defense.
You want to defend those who want to sink the lifeboat. I’m not sure why, but that doesn’t make you moral.
You want to defend those who want to sink the lifeboat. I’m not sure why, but that doesn’t make you moral.
Where the hell did I say I’m defending billionaires? I’m not. I’m defending everyone’s right to feel what they feel because you’re entitled to that, and I’m defending your right to free speech, which you have because of the First Amendment.
If you want to say, “All billionaires deserve to die,” that’s your right to say that. You are entitled to feel that way. I’m entitled to say, "Your kids deserve cancer, or they deserve to be murdered in a school shooting.
I mean, if my kid was a wealth hoarding, kid diddling, entitled, exploitative little shit, I’d wish some cancer on them.
Your error is that you’re punching down. If you can find a 12yo billionaire with a rap sheet like Donald Trump, fuck it, that’s a pretty terrible human being and it’s got a lot of years ahead of it. But most kids aren’t that vile. They’re not even in control of their own day to day lives, much less running governments and industry. Killing them solves nothing. Besides, they’re already getting cancer from the waste of the capitalist system, so you don’t even have to wish it; they’ve got it.
Pretty sure my kid is going to be a billionaire because I read “Rich Dad”, why do you hate billionaires?
You could, but does your wishing it have any material impact on me and society at large?
Billionaires hoarding society’s resources does, which is why the capitalist class needs to be eradicated
The top 1% are responsible for more pain and suffering than any other demographic. Even the holocaust wouldn’t have happened if the top 1% weren’t lobbying for fascism. Crimes commited by workers are often done as a result of alienation, these crimes committed by billionairs are commited from souless greed, knowing the full effect of their actions but chosing to do nothing about it.
Honestly, I can’t make up my mind about killing them, I’m not sure if anyone should be killed. Perhaps with enough therapy they can become a regular person again.
Even the holocaust wouldn’t have happened if the top 1% lobbying for fascism.
They’re the same picture.
they should surrender their ill-gotten plunder or face the wall
☝️This. I’m willing to give nearly everyone a chance for improvement/redemption, more than one chance even, depending on the conditions on the ground. The billionaire issue however, is of the utmost importance, with too much at stake to waste time with lengthy argument.
One way or another, they’re biting the bullet.
Puyi: From emperor to gardener
(Better than just putting him up against the wall, I guess, right?)
Yes with the caveat if we have the power to enforce it they get the option to join the community lose all their wealth and work towards reparations to their victims. If we don’t have that power yet or they refuse then yes.
No one deserves anything in the state of nature, everything just is what it is.
Desert regards The Social Contract. The contract says we mutually agree to behave respectfully towards eachother, to honor eachother’s right to exist and persist in the world. When a person fails to abide by the contract, they aren’t covered by it either. A person who hoards resources beyond what they can possibly use is not covered by the contract and deserves no protection under it.
Again I tell you, it is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God.
They deserve to spend their remaining days in humble, honest work, perhaps as janitors, and to write three or four books reflecting on their mistakes and seeking forgiveness.
What China did to the last emperor was the way to go.
Do they deserve to die? That’s not for me to judge but they deserve to have their excess wealth confiscated and distributed for the betterment of society
Yes. Next question.
Next question
Do I have the right to say and think you and your children deserve to have cancer and be murdered?
Implying billionaires are as innocent as a child?
You have the right to think whatever you want. You have the right to say almost anything you want. You lose that right when those actions start hurting others.
Your’s is just a dumbass response to be edgy. Go touch grass.
Rights aren’t real. They’re granted by the collective. Turn on the collective, and they’ll turn on you. No magic system keeps your rights in place then. You can certainly choose to identify others as an enemy, treating them poorly and thinking they should die. That isn’t even uncommon.
Now, do you have the infinite resources to make it happen? No. Do billionaires? Yes. That’s the problem.
Rights aren’t real. They’re granted by the collective.
They’re not granted by the collective in capitalist states, though. They’re granted by the ruling class, which is the minority capitalist class. And those happen to be the same people under discussion to face the guillotine.
anyone with over let’s say, 100 million dollars of private wealth, should taxed at 100% (with a strong enforcement mechanism) and that money should go directly into public equity. What should the public equity be spent on? my vote is a UBI
Sure but tax evasion is extremely easy when your rich since they just borrow all of their money and even if you get rid of things billionares use they would just retire since no body would work for free.
Yes.
There are no good billionaires.
Not die, but sure they need some cash redistribution, pronto. Although I can’t deny that a non-dismissable amount of them are too gone into their own mentality
NO! We (collectively, not individually) allowed them to be created. These spoiled babies with tantrums. We just need to take their toys away.
If anyone deserves to die, billionaires deserve to die more than anyone who has ever lived. Regardless, I personally don’t think anyone deserves to die. What I would prefer is that billionaires be put on trial for their crimes and sentenced to rehabilitation, and afterward live as equals with other humans. China made the last heir to the old empire a farmer who lived a happy life. That’s the happiest solution I can think of for everyone.
