• sexybenfranklin@ttrpg.network
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    23 days ago

    Really? Because a tree losing a limb or having all its needles fall off would definitely be considered an irreversible process and absolutely an increase in entropy in a thermodynamic system

    • UnityDevice@lemmy.zip
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      22 days ago

      I’m thinking about it more in a mathematical sense where the bottom system is more ordered by being more specific and having fewer analogous configurations. I’m possibly using the wrong terms here, but basically if you make a slight change to the top system, it will more likely remain analogous to the previous state than the bottom one. For example if you rotate one of the needles in the top image, it’s still the same thing, but if you rotate a needle in the bottom one it no longer matches the very specific pattern that it did before.

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      23 days ago

      But that natural process is not what happened here? Needles don’t fall off trees and line themselves up neatly into rows like the picture.

      • prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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        23 days ago

        They’re just being placed in some kind of order, visually, but it doesn’t mean the same as “order” in the entropic sense.

        As the other person said, the process need not be natural.