Anyone have any good sources for predictions of effects of this? It sounds like AMOC is a particularly complex system, and I’m sure the ripples from it collapsing are at least as complex, but it’d be nice to have some idea of where might be a good place to move to, if this is as inevitable as it sounds.
it’d be nice to have some idea of where might be a good place to move to, if this is as inevitable as it sounds.
Not as nice as you think. You could dodge harsher winters, an energy crunch and crop failures, just to move to somewhere with heatstress, drought and cropfailures.
We must not view climate as the thing to watch. It’s one part of a larger complex system of systems. Changes in the AMOC can trigger changes elsewhere, and more importantly, elsewhere is changing on its own too. Not just because of emissions.
It’s a lot to digest, especially if you don’t have a background in ecology, biology, environmental sciences or systems theory. But a solid easy framework is planetary boundaries.
It’s all 9 boundaries together (plus any new ones discovered) that’s going to pickle us. We are exceeding 7 of the 9 identified so far and there are and will be severe consequences for having exceeded our planet’s limits.
I worry about climate change A LOT. I worry about Ecological Overshoot and Collapse due to Planetary Boundaries even more.
Anyone have any good sources for predictions of effects of this? It sounds like AMOC is a particularly complex system, and I’m sure the ripples from it collapsing are at least as complex, but it’d be nice to have some idea of where might be a good place to move to, if this is as inevitable as it sounds.
There was a documentary about it made once I think it was called The Day After Tomorrow.
Not as nice as you think. You could dodge harsher winters, an energy crunch and crop failures, just to move to somewhere with heatstress, drought and cropfailures.
We must not view climate as the thing to watch. It’s one part of a larger complex system of systems. Changes in the AMOC can trigger changes elsewhere, and more importantly, elsewhere is changing on its own too. Not just because of emissions.
It’s a lot to digest, especially if you don’t have a background in ecology, biology, environmental sciences or systems theory. But a solid easy framework is planetary boundaries.
It’s all 9 boundaries together (plus any new ones discovered) that’s going to pickle us. We are exceeding 7 of the 9 identified so far and there are and will be severe consequences for having exceeded our planet’s limits.
I worry about climate change A LOT. I worry about Ecological Overshoot and Collapse due to Planetary Boundaries even more.
the all new EPA will abide, no doubt
True. True. But to be fair, the old one wasn’t fit for purpose either. Lovely science, but still couldn’t do anything about it.