• jtrek@startrek.website
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    5 months ago

    I think I said this before, but a problem is when someone says “I don’t like star trek: discovery” it’s impossible to know if they have reasons beyond “i don’t like black women”. They might not even know themselves! And if they do, they’re unlikely to come out and say that. They’ll reach for something more acceptable like “I wanted self contained episodes” (but DS9’s arcs are cool) or whatever.

    There are so many duds online they’ve poisoned the well of discourse.

  • DarkCloud@lemmy.world
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    5 months ago

    Nah, new star trek doesn’t feel classic enough because it’s too netflixed out. Meaning it doesn’t fit comfortable aesthetics, doesn’t feel self-contained (stand alone episodes). Doesn’t feel in-world, and isn’t set in a likeable section of time in Star Trek lore.

    Most people who don’t like New Star Trek want a TNG, VOY, or DS9 era timeline, featuring a strong actress or actor as the Captain, that’s episodic in nature, and operates as a philosophical defense/testing/statement about the best parts of western progressive/liberal democracy using sci fi as a metaphor or container.

    Star Trek isn’t a place for dark gritty season long arcs that feel like movies that aren’t going anywhere. No, we want philosophical premises, in well lit carpeted spaces, about interesting technology, aliens, and psychology… That years later we realise were subtle commentaries (or even hopeful suggestions) about real world problems.

    Lower Decks is currently the best fit for this.

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      5 months ago

      I agree but that has nothing to do with the “Nu” pejorative assigned to Kelvinverse films.

      The reactionary racists and trolls started reapplying the term to the Black Lady show and pretended that crying a lot is somehow the same thing as Captain Kirk riding a motorcycle through a flaming ring.