Someone who disagrees with our current actions in the middle east but is (to an unknown degree) buying into the idea that Israel is controlling the USA.

  • CocteauChameleons [none/use name]@hexbear.net
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    Israel is just a biblical excuse for the west to ethnically cleanse and colonize the middle east

    Jewish people just got lucky. Right time right place. We would’ve propped up a Christian Levant state or Kurdish state to provide destabilization. No point in propping up a state for brown folk when we already got the white folk moving there to be our partners in crime.

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      6 days ago

      I don’t think it is accurate to characterize them as lucky in this. Honestly, I do occasionally feel bad that thr people of isreal were expatriated from their homes in Europe to be turned into a janissary core.

      Like, the place needs to be sent into the sea, but we took an abused and traumatized population gave them guns and then bred them to abuse and traumatized others. Like, I have to imagine the psychic damage of it all is wild. The domestic abuse numbers have to be off thr charts you know.

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          Yeah, but like, the Germans kept the homes they were kicked out of then they were given guns to go do the thing that happened to them to someone else. That was a seccond evil act done to the population. Not that it justifies their behavior but fuck, it’s bleak you know. We literally could have just given then a chunk of Utah and there would have been no significant negative externalities you know. So for some portions of their population they are victims of a fucked up situation we created. The window for that to be a driving social force is closed, but it is on balance, only a generation or two away from that. That is some heavy psychic damage to get through.

          • homhom9000 [she/her]@hexbear.net
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            Nope, not feeling bad at all. What did the Congolese get after Leopold ? Haitians after their revolution? Isrelis got a state and then the nakbah, and now unfiltered support. So their mental state is unimportant, we shouldn’t care how bad after getting their way.