“Al Sarkha” or “the collective outcry” from Ansar Allah was modeled after revolutionary Iran and adopted in 2003, right after POTUS Bush Junior’s invasion of Iraq and Afghanistan as well as the Palestinian second intifada. The line “Curse upon the the Jews” has drawn ire from international audiences for being antisemitic.
It is not antisemitic because antisemitism no longer exists as a form of systemic oppression. Judaism has been subsumed by the white supremacist settler class system as Christianity has been. Jews are not a race nor are they an ethnicity and to say so is to directly support Israel’s myth of existence which is predicated on the revisionist history of Judaism as well as the centrality of the European Jewish experience above all others.
To do politeness finger wagging to a people who have suffered genocide at the hands of Jewish settlers, US imperialists and gulf compradors is an insult to their intelligence and to their humanity.
Incredible how we are on a thread detailing the murder of an innocent baby girl with her grandfather and all you can think about is how a Jewish person’s feelings might be hurt.
Those people are not the ones reading this and while it is understandable why that slogan manifested there is absolutely reason to say that part is not okay.
Critiquing actually bigoted language is not “politeness finger wagging”
Have you considered that your position comes from one assuming that the people engaging in this rhetoric are European and not themselves victim of the Jewish supremacist project? That telling people online this language is not okay for them, but understandable for “those people” is a way of reinforcing that this space is not for “those people,” and instead it is a space for white Americans and Europeans? That you already assumed that “those people are not the ones reading this,” once again universalizing American experience and relegating the experience of people elsewhere as an exotic other that must not exist in your space?
That if you, as a white American, feel uncomfortable using that language you could simply not use it yourself, knowing that for you it carries the burden of a history of anti-Jewish pogroms? A history that is not a burden for the Jewish supremacist apartheid state’s victims to carry and shoulder the guilt of?
Because I showed you quite clearly where your argument, the things you actually said, reinforce the understanding that this is a space for predominantly white American/European users, by the very assumption that “those people are not the ones reading this.”
I think you are misreading what I said. Zionists are not the ones reading this. If there are any here they get banned pretty fast. The only people that would be seeing for example the emoji another user requested, are not the people you are talking about. Why do you keep talking past my actual point?
You immediately jumped to cussing me out with “Again what the fuck is wrong with you?” and are now saying I “keep” talking past your point, making me think you didn’t bother to read that I am a different person and that I hadn’t previously engaged with you on this thread.
As for misreading you, I suppose I did if that is what you were trying to say, though I will clarify that hello_hello said you were doing “polite finger wagging to a people who have suffered genocide” which you quoted and responded “those people are not the ones reading this,” so I would say that your writing is unclear as that sequence to me is pretty clearly you saying that the people who have suffered genocide are not the ones reading this.
I am also not “talking past” your point. I disagree with your point and simply politely invited you to consider things from a less American-centric perspective. You responded with typical American hostility though, because Americans are never able to see past their own perspective and respond to any and all criticism with hostility and self-righteous indignation.
Based.
Based.
Not based.
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“Al Sarkha” or “the collective outcry” from Ansar Allah was modeled after revolutionary Iran and adopted in 2003, right after POTUS Bush Junior’s invasion of Iraq and Afghanistan as well as the Palestinian second intifada. The line “Curse upon the the Jews” has drawn ire from international audiences for being antisemitic.
It is not antisemitic because antisemitism no longer exists as a form of systemic oppression. Judaism has been subsumed by the white supremacist settler class system as Christianity has been. Jews are not a race nor are they an ethnicity and to say so is to directly support Israel’s myth of existence which is predicated on the revisionist history of Judaism as well as the centrality of the European Jewish experience above all others.
To do politeness finger wagging to a people who have suffered genocide at the hands of Jewish settlers, US imperialists and gulf compradors is an insult to their intelligence and to their humanity.
Incredible how we are on a thread detailing the murder of an innocent baby girl with her grandfather and all you can think about is how a Jewish person’s feelings might be hurt.
Those people are not the ones reading this and while it is understandable why that slogan manifested there is absolutely reason to say that part is not okay.
Critiquing actually bigoted language is not “politeness finger wagging”
Have you considered that your position comes from one assuming that the people engaging in this rhetoric are European and not themselves victim of the Jewish supremacist project? That telling people online this language is not okay for them, but understandable for “those people” is a way of reinforcing that this space is not for “those people,” and instead it is a space for white Americans and Europeans? That you already assumed that “those people are not the ones reading this,” once again universalizing American experience and relegating the experience of people elsewhere as an exotic other that must not exist in your space?
That if you, as a white American, feel uncomfortable using that language you could simply not use it yourself, knowing that for you it carries the burden of a history of anti-Jewish pogroms? A history that is not a burden for the Jewish supremacist apartheid state’s victims to carry and shoulder the guilt of?
How the fuck is it me siding with zionists by saying hey maybe we shouldn’t make an emoji out of a slogan with “Curse upon the jews”?
Again what the fuck is wrong with you?
Could you show me where I said that?
Because I showed you quite clearly where your argument, the things you actually said, reinforce the understanding that this is a space for predominantly white American/European users, by the very assumption that “those people are not the ones reading this.”
I think you are misreading what I said. Zionists are not the ones reading this. If there are any here they get banned pretty fast. The only people that would be seeing for example the emoji another user requested, are not the people you are talking about. Why do you keep talking past my actual point?
You immediately jumped to cussing me out with “Again what the fuck is wrong with you?” and are now saying I “keep” talking past your point, making me think you didn’t bother to read that I am a different person and that I hadn’t previously engaged with you on this thread.
As for misreading you, I suppose I did if that is what you were trying to say, though I will clarify that hello_hello said you were doing “polite finger wagging to a people who have suffered genocide” which you quoted and responded “those people are not the ones reading this,” so I would say that your writing is unclear as that sequence to me is pretty clearly you saying that the people who have suffered genocide are not the ones reading this.
I am also not “talking past” your point. I disagree with your point and simply politely invited you to consider things from a less American-centric perspective. You responded with typical American hostility though, because Americans are never able to see past their own perspective and respond to any and all criticism with hostility and self-righteous indignation.
Good luck with that.
Bás do Mheiriceá
Bleaist eascainí
Chead acu focáil leo i dtigh an diabhail
Neither of us are from that region I just don’t see what is productive about getting defensive of people criticizing that one line of that slogan.
You’re being plenty hostile throughout the thread. I thought you hated victim acts? Everything is incredulity and shut-up lines and misrepresentation.